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Ask HN: Does anyone do SEO out there?
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Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do SEO out there?
#22SEO is a business based on fear and confusion. The only thing that matters is high authority backlinks pointing into your site. All the on-page stuff matters, just not as much. And we throw the on-page stuff in for free. We build backlinks to your site using our proprietary algorithm developed by studying the google patent filing and extensive trial and error. All sites hosting your link are PageRank 4+. Give me a shout and I'll send you our two-pager on who we are, what we do, how we do it, and expected results (we've ranked for the keyword "diet" before). Holla! :)
Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do SEO out there?
#23Why not just learn what there is to learn yourself. It's not exactly rocket science.
One of the first major lessons of being an entrepreneur for me was that even though I probably could do everything myself it was not economical and not feasible to actually do everything myself. That probably was the first lesson, but I still spent another two decades before it fully sank in. There are many things that, even though not rocket science, are quite specialist in nature and it takes time and experience to…
I worked for a guy who set up a very successful online business here in Padova, and, yeah, he certainly didn't try and do it all. "SEO" was something he very much had a handle on though, because the site lived or died by its web presence. He brought in a couple of potential consultants to interview, but they all seemed to not really have any knowledge that we didn't already posses internally.
So - yeah, delegate, but some things you can't delegate. No idea about their business in particular, but for a lot of online businesses, keeping track of the basics is probably something you ought to have a feel for yourself.
It's similar to the idea that tech startups are most likely better off not outsourcing their development work.
Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do SEO out there?
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the first major lessons of being an entrepreneur for me was that even though I probably could do everything myself it was not economical and not feasible to actually do everything myself. That probably was the first lesson, but I still spent another two decades before it fully sank in. There are many things that, even though not rocket science, are quite specialist in nature and it takes time and experience to…
I worked for a guy who set up a very successful online business here in Padova, and, yeah, he certainly didn't try and do it all. "SEO" was something he very much had a handle on though, because the site lived or died by its web presence. He brought in a couple of potential consultants to interview, but they all seemed to not really have any knowledge that we didn't already posses internally. So - yeah, delegate, but…
The golden rule seems to be 'trust but verify', and a little bit of knowledge goes a long way during the 'verify' stage.
Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do SEO out there?
#25I did SEO consulting for about a year and a half up until a few months ago. My employer was pretty happy with the results -- though I haven't kept up with the field recently as I've been trying to focus more on software & web development (being a Computer Science major). If you're interested let me know what your goals are and I'll write up a proposal. I could use the job but if I see that you wouldn't benefit much from my services I will reject your proposal. In the past I've told potential clients that they would be better off going to SEOMoz (or whatever site is popular these days) to read some articles and do it themselves.
As far as promises (or guarantees rather) and SEO goes, I don't make them. A search engine is basically a "black box" as far as I see - making a guarantee would seem a bit disingenuous. The only promise I can make is that I would do my best using whatever knowledge I have.
Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do SEO out there?
#26I think you'll find your experience with an SEO firm was fairly common (if not universal). They over promise and can't possibly deliver without a longterm (ie. prohibitively expensive) involvement with your company. The company I work for hired some of the bigger companies (SEOInc.com, Bruce Clay) and they provided some good advice. However, at the end of the day, it was up to me to implement the technical side of things and our SEO/SEM manager to work on the long term stuff. Plus, the knowledge they provided is either readily available or some new trick which is prone to change over time. Both firms cost a fortune (well, I consider it a fortune).
Save your money, hire someone junior but clever, give them 6 months to work on it part time--tell them not to try anything blackhat/fishy. I think you'd get way better bang for your buck. (They can start by adding METATAGS to the first (most important?) category (Egyptian Hookah) in your menu--Google says that keywords/description aren't that important anymore but every SEO consultant is going to tell you to do them first)...
You are sitting on a goldmine having a copy writer. Most longterm SEO is developing legitimately interesting content to encourage high-quality, inbound links. Have your copy writer colleague spend an hour or two a week writing Hookah Articles (I'll read them--always been a bit intriqued by them) and in a year your site will be killing it....
Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do SEO out there?
#27I did SEO consulting for about a year and a half up until a few months ago. My employer was pretty happy with the results -- though I haven't kept up with the field recently as I've been trying to focus more on software & web development (being a Computer Science major). If you're interested let me know what your goals are and I'll write up a proposal. I could use the job but if I see that you wouldn't benefit much f…
Shoot me your details, my email is in my profile. Thanks!
Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do SEO out there?
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
http://HoboHookah.com
well, is there any reason why you keep asking for emails on a site you sell products? Users don't even have time to find out what you sell and they already have a popup on their faces, not a great UX , drop me a mail if you wish ( see profile ), I will review your SEO for free and send you a report, if you feel comfortable with my report, we could go further, if not you can pick someone else, you may also try Patio ,…
We do a lot of web marketing ourselves (just not SEO): This is a pretty proven method in building an email list. We have double opt in and our conversion rate is through the roof. We make a lot of money off of that pop up.
Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do SEO out there?
#29I did SEO consulting for about a year and a half up until a few months ago. My employer was pretty happy with the results -- though I haven't kept up with the field recently as I've been trying to focus more on software & web development (being a Computer Science major). If you're interested let me know what your goals are and I'll write up a proposal. I could use the job but if I see that you wouldn't benefit much f…
Shoot me your details, my email is in my profile. Thanks!
Maybe I'm just blind but I can't seem to find it in your profile. I'll add my AIM screenname to my profile just in case you would rather IM me your email address.
I have class for few hours in a bit but I'll try to give you a proposal either today or tomorrow.
EDIT: Found your gmail address by following one of the sites listed in your profile. Thanks -- I'll email you later.
Re: Ask HN: Does anyone do SEO out there?
#30Send me a message (AIM sn in profile) I'll help you out, no charge. I'm the technical founder of a top 100 and top 500 site and picked up some SEO along the way.
Wanted to reach you, but frankly AOL won't let me create a new AIM account. Captcha here is broken https://new.aol.com/productsweb/?promocode=825960&ncid=t... (I'm baffled how can they afford to have their signup form broken for the past half an hour I have been trying)
Any chance you could contact me instead? I'm paras {at} wingify {dot} com