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Ask HN: I think my company might be selling. What should I be doing to prepare?

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Re: Ask HN: I think my company might be selling. What should I be doing to prepare?

#21
Shareholder/liquidity preference is very important... for example if you are VC backed and there are multiple classes of stock, eg. common vs preferred, you will probably find that preferred stock holders have payout preference. Even if you own a large chunk of common stock the purchase price might not be high enough to take care of preferred stock holders with any significant amount of money left for common shareholders. Generally, at a certain acquisition price preferred stock is converted to common and all shareholders treated equally.

Best thing is to have someone review all your stock agreements and such.

Anecdotally, the last company I worked for was eventually acquired (long after I left) for low 9 figures. Turned out the price was just enough to pay back investors and other shareholders got nothing... I imagine that felt pretty shity for folks who spent years building "equity."

Re: Ask HN: I think my company might be selling. What should I be doing to prepare?

#23
Figure out what percentage of the company you own. Saying you have something like 50,000 options is meaningless unless you know what others own. 50,000 options could be .001% of the company or it could be 10%. You have no idea.

They'll probably hate you if you ask to see the CAP table, but that's the info you want. Don't be shocked if your options end up being less than 1% of the company even if you were one of the first 10 employees.

Personally, I was part of a 15 person angel-funded startup that sold to a private company for 30mm at the direction of a VC firm. They bought out all of my options at full value.

I had less than 1% equity. I didn't get much money but got about enough to make my salary what it would have been if I'd been working for a bigger company. That's it, but it was about what I expected and seemed fair given how my salary/options were presented to me when I was hired.

Once sold, the new company will either fire you pretty quickly (within 6 months), or will create some silly incentive plan to try to get you to stay. I stayed on with about a 20% salary increase, which brought my salary up to the market rate for a big company. I was happy with this agreement.

Be prepared for a lot of office politics and difficulty integrating with the acquiring company. This will be the hardest part. It's substantially more complicated than the financial part of the sale.

Re: Ask HN: I think my company might be selling. What should I be doing to prepare?

#24

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I have had this happen to me several times as well. This should be illegal

I think technically it is, but they count on the fact that it would cost twice as much to fight them in court than you could ever hope to get back.

If those actions constituted a tort, the court can award punitive or treble (i.e., "triple") damages (depending on the jurisdiction), plus legal fees.

Re: Ask HN: I think my company might be selling. What should I be doing to prepare?

#25
Seems like every comment at this stage is about getting shafted when your startup gets an exit. Other than supposed the lack of politics and more bleeding edge tech - what is the point of working at a startup if you aren't looking for an exit? (Especially for early hires)

Re: Ask HN: I think my company might be selling. What should I be doing to prepare?

#26
I worked for a moderately successful startup that got acquired and I had both options and grants. All vested options and existing shares were paid out as cash. Unvested options and grants were then paid out as a cash bonus on the vest dates if you were still working there.

Options were valued at sale price - exercise price. I had grants at different prices, but on average the cash value was about double the original grant values. I had been working there about 3 years. Also got a two year retention bonus worth 60% of my salary at the time of acquisition. Didn't make me rich, but it was a nice chunk of change. People who had been there longer had lower grant prices and made a LOT or money.

There isn't really anything you can do besides exercise early to try to get long term cap gains, but that's more risky than it's worth IMO, because the shares could end up valueless and you're screwed.

Re: Ask HN: I think my company might be selling. What should I be doing to prepare?

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Was your equity vested in any case? Any insight into the sleight of hand that went on?

My guess is OP's share was diluted to the point it was basically worthless. As in, they went from owning 1% to 0.01% or similar.

I want to point out that dilution isn't strictly bad if the final sale price of the company is high enough. E.g. if the company sold for a billion, then 0.01% would be a cool million dollars. It's better to own 0.01% of a billion dollar company than 10% of a million dollar company.

Dilution can be beneficial in cases when diluting equity for cash in the short term would lead to an increase in the overall value of the company in the long term (e.g. the tradeoff most venture backed companies make when swinging for the fences).

The kicker here is that most companies are not billion dollar companies or even multi-hundred million dollar companies. Essentially, the role of dilution is different at different stages of funding and company growth. It can be a bad thing, especially if improperly used during a company exit like an acquisition. It can also be a good thing if it ultimately leads to a higher overall exit in the future.

It's a financial tool that can be properly or improperly used and one which a regular employee doesn't have control over. That's why being able to trust leadership is critical when joining a startup. If you think the CEO won't do the right thing when the time comes to do the right thing, then all bets are off and your equity means nothing even if the company achieves moderate success.

I know that most of what I wrote is super basic, but I've been seeing more and more comments around here that imply that all dilution is bad no matter the circumstances. But that just isn't the case.

Re: Ask HN: I think my company might be selling. What should I be doing to prepare?

#28

Seems like every comment at this stage is about getting shafted when your startup gets an exit. Other than supposed the lack of politics and more bleeding edge tech - what is the point of working at a startup if you aren't looking for an exit? (Especially for early hires)

This is the unfortunate reality. I work for startup for the fast pace, everybody-gets-to-do-a-bit-of-everything environment, but I surrendered my hopes of making an exit a while back (after being burnt, like many here).

For most intent and purpose, the Exit is mostly a legend to get very cheap and motivated labor to join in, it's important to see beyond it.

Re: Ask HN: I think my company might be selling. What should I be doing to prepare?

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess is OP's share was diluted to the point it was basically worthless. As in, they went from owning 1% to 0.01% or similar.

I want to point out that dilution isn't strictly bad if the final sale price of the company is high enough. E.g. if the company sold for a billion, then 0.01% would be a cool million dollars. It's better to own 0.01% of a billion dollar company than 10% of a million dollar company. Dilution can be beneficial in cases when diluting equity for cash in the short term would lead to an increase in the overall value of the…

FYI 0.01% * 1 billion = 100k

Re: Ask HN: I think my company might be selling. What should I be doing to prepare?

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess is OP's share was diluted to the point it was basically worthless. As in, they went from owning 1% to 0.01% or similar.

I want to point out that dilution isn't strictly bad if the final sale price of the company is high enough. E.g. if the company sold for a billion, then 0.01% would be a cool million dollars. It's better to own 0.01% of a billion dollar company than 10% of a million dollar company. Dilution can be beneficial in cases when diluting equity for cash in the short term would lead to an increase in the overall value of the…

> That's why being able to trust leadership is critical when joining a startup.

another potential scenario to think about is "what if leadership changes" e.g. if, for whatever reason, control of the company leaves the hands of the CEO you trust to some other third party.

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