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Ask HN: Why are we addicted to getting rich?

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Re: Ask HN: Why are we addicted to getting rich?

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I have a number, well 2. The first being a stepping stone, a marker to reach, the point where I can step back for a year, re-evaluate and consider if I want to shoot for the next target. Neither of the numbers are high, the first with some savy investments I could make last the rest of my life but I'm a relatively simple guy, I could live on ~12k a year easily. That includes rent, bills, food, clothes etc. For me, it…

Just curious, where do you live where 12k a year is enough for everything? That doesn't even cover rent in the Bay Area.

Re: Ask HN: Why are we addicted to getting rich?

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post #15

I have a number, well 2. The first being a stepping stone, a marker to reach, the point where I can step back for a year, re-evaluate and consider if I want to shoot for the next target. Neither of the numbers are high, the first with some savy investments I could make last the rest of my life but I'm a relatively simple guy, I could live on ~12k a year easily. That includes rent, bills, food, clothes etc. For me, it…

Most people need something to do. Idleness just degrades existence and accelerates dis-ease. A simple mind is a key skill to survive our current situation filled with so much conflict.

Re: Ask HN: Why are we addicted to getting rich?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, I have the same goal. If/when I manage to get to $600k (~12k p/year assuming 2% yield) I'll take 3 months totally off work of any kind, just recuperating, then another 3 months to plan out the rest of my life.

Isn't inflation 3% a year?

Don't depress me please :(

Re: Ask HN: Why are we addicted to getting rich?

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post #21
post #15

I have a number, well 2. The first being a stepping stone, a marker to reach, the point where I can step back for a year, re-evaluate and consider if I want to shoot for the next target. Neither of the numbers are high, the first with some savy investments I could make last the rest of my life but I'm a relatively simple guy, I could live on ~12k a year easily. That includes rent, bills, food, clothes etc. For me, it…

Just curious, where do you live where 12k a year is enough for everything? That doesn't even cover rent in the Bay Area.

Bay Area is one of the most expensive locations in the world. Been living in London and 12k USD (8.5k GBP) is roughly doable even here. Obviously not luxurious living, but doable.

Re: Ask HN: Why are we addicted to getting rich?

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post #8

What is this ancient desire to be rich? It's the same ancient desire to hunt and survive. With money you can hunt. Without it you will be hunted. When you don't have money you become the subject of the force and influence of those who have it. You will have to live your life on someone else's terms.

If we believe history then I could agree yet my perspective is also ancient but it doesnt show man as an evolving creature who begins on Earth as a dumb hunter and gatherer moving along into the future developing an advanced brain. So our world force feeds us information based on fallacy of our ancestors to continue making the powerful and rich full in their poppycock. Make sense? Like another fellow said, we want to rule over people. So where we are today as we can analyze world situations doesnt seem we are very advanced.

Re: Ask HN: Why are we addicted to getting rich?

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post #9

I have a desire to be free. I'm working towards never having to look at a fucking computer again. Hopefully by the time I'm 30, I'll have enough to do only need to work about three months year. The rest of the time I'm going to be surfing or rock climbing.

I too have the same desire - partly to work only on those things that interest me and partly to not have to deal with recruiters, office politics, mindless meetings etc etc. The amount of meaningless tasks we need to do in a job is insane

Re: Ask HN: Why are we addicted to getting rich?

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post #9

I have a desire to be free. I'm working towards never having to look at a fucking computer again. Hopefully by the time I'm 30, I'll have enough to do only need to work about three months year. The rest of the time I'm going to be surfing or rock climbing.

Yup, FREEDOM ! is my choice as well. By managing expenses I don't need millions in the bank. BTW: how are you going to earn enough in 3 months / year if you are never going to look at a computer again? I can't think of any endeavour where some for of IT isn't in use.

I actually want more screen-time. But screen-time doing my own projects and tinkering rather than making $$ for mega-corp. Though making $$ for mega-corp is its own type of fun, so I can't totally complain about my full-time job.

Re: Ask HN: Why are we addicted to getting rich?

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post #11
post #9

I have a desire to be free. I'm working towards never having to look at a fucking computer again. Hopefully by the time I'm 30, I'll have enough to do only need to work about three months year. The rest of the time I'm going to be surfing or rock climbing.

Why can't you do this now? Three months of software contract work is more income than 99% of the planet earns in a year.

Not saying he couldn't do it now, but 99% of the planet lives in undesirable situations.

Re: Ask HN: Why are we addicted to getting rich?

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post #11
post #9

I have a desire to be free. I'm working towards never having to look at a fucking computer again. Hopefully by the time I'm 30, I'll have enough to do only need to work about three months year. The rest of the time I'm going to be surfing or rock climbing.

Why can't you do this now? Three months of software contract work is more income than 99% of the planet earns in a year.

I wish I could learn Computer Science like Neo in The Matrix. ;) I would love to have such a brain to accomplish a year salary in 3 mo

Re: Ask HN: Why are we addicted to getting rich?

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post #21
post #15

I have a number, well 2. The first being a stepping stone, a marker to reach, the point where I can step back for a year, re-evaluate and consider if I want to shoot for the next target. Neither of the numbers are high, the first with some savy investments I could make last the rest of my life but I'm a relatively simple guy, I could live on ~12k a year easily. That includes rent, bills, food, clothes etc. For me, it…

Just curious, where do you live where 12k a year is enough for everything? That doesn't even cover rent in the Bay Area.

London, UK. As conwy mentioned, it's not luxurious but it is doable. It helps I'm not really all that social, I don't like crowds, nor wasting money. Don't get me wrong I've done my fair share of both and I still go out once a month, but I have a limit on what I will spend because trust me it is far to easy to go into central London and end up spending a ridiculous amount of money.

Most of my socialising in the past 6 months has been staying in or going to a friends house. A couple times a week, we will cook each other dinner, maybe have a beer and generally just relax. It's basically a "habit" now and 1 that I really quite enjoy, all of our cooking levels have improved and we experiment a lot both with simple dishes and different styles. There's only been 1 occasion when we've all said no and thrown it out, admittedly my fault. I seriously misjudged some chillies, lol.

Also, as cowy said the bay area is 1 of the more expensive places to live. You make a choice to live there, I know it might not be that simple, but it is a choice none the less.

If travellings your thing, on a 12k/y budget you could do most of Europe, Asia and probably more. I did the calculations once when considering travelling for a couple years, of course your not going to be staying at 5* hotels in a gated community, fine dining, but that imho isn't travelling.

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