Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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Post by gokhan » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:21 PM UTC

louisswiss wrote: post #15

Viker wrote: post #10

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Why do people feel this way about their salaries. Always seemed to me that in the grand tottal we will be better off if we did discuss our salaries publicly. I make around 60k usd in a Scandinavian startup as a programmer with experience. What is so big deal about it

As an (hypothetical) employer I now know that, ceteris paribus, I only need to offer you around 65k USD to come and work for me, even if I was prepared to offer you 90k USD. I agree though that we would, on average, be better off if all of us agreed to share salaries publicly.

If other employees of yours also publicly share what they earn, you won't be able to do that, as you noted. Besides, other employers will see that you under pay and offer him more and you'll need to compete on price or you will use talented employees and left with lemons.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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Post by fnbr » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:22 PM UTC

charlesdm wrote: post #14

Viker wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people feel this way about their salaries. Always seemed to me that in the grand tottal we will be better off if we did discuss our salaries publicly. I make around 60k usd in a Scandinavian startup as a programmer with experience. What is so big deal about it

The people making a lot above average (because they negotiated well) generally don't want to share this publicly, because others will realise they are then being underpaid. As an example: would you tell a colleague "on the same level" as you that you're making $300k, when he is making $50 or $100k? That's either 1) an excellent way to get fired, because now everyone wants $300k, or 2) an excellent way to piss off you…

It is technically illegal to fire you for discussing this, at least in the US.

I know at Google there's supposedly a big internal salary sharing doc started by Erica Baker, and she wasn't fired for it (although her manager was supposedly quite unhappy).

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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Post by rndmswethrwawy » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:24 PM UTC

Staff SWE, Google Seattle.

Total 2018 comp will be around 550k with a roughly 55/45 equity/cash split if GOOG shares remain constant. Historically they have typically gone up meaningfully over the course of any given year.

The cash component includes base salary and bonus.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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Post by gautam1168 » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:24 PM UTC

Only slightly related. Since many google employees will be here: How can I plan to land a job with google in 2 years if I have a physics masters and 1.5 years of web development + little exp. with other software stacks? I am trying to figure out a strategy to make it happen and I am willing to do anything, even go back to school.

* How can I get an interview? It seems simply sending my resume through the online portal will not work because I don't have a stellar academic record or much experience.

* How can I figure out what to apply for? I have experience in UI but does google even do that? I want to work at google because I want to work with the people there who are just the smartest people around. But I don't really care what I work on.

* How and how long should I prepare for the interview? I am working through the Cormen's algorithms book but I don't really have a solid CS education. And I hear that they just want you to know everything. So should I just go back to school?

* I have heard that one way is to participate and excel in coding competitions. Should I then focus my entire energy on this front? Or will this be misguided?

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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Post by Mitchhhs » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:24 PM UTC

Check out https://www.transparentcareer.com you can filter by any function in the organization, educational background, years of experience, recency of data, etc. We tried to include as much granularity as possible to avoid the issues with glassdoor. After you sign up, navigate to the career explorer, you should be able to get the information you need without being required to add a ton of personal information. More information is required if you want to get to the highest levels of granularity.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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Post by 4k » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:25 PM UTC

tomtompl wrote: post #20

LandR wrote: post #6

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Salaries I see on Glass Door for Amazon for Scottish jobs are fairly accurate. A Developer will make anywhere between £35k and £50k depending on experience (this matches with what I saw when I was looking for a job a year ago)

Wow, that's shockingly low :(

European tech salaries are famously lower than US salaries.

Southern Europe is even worse. I was offered a role of Senior/Lead engineer (with over 10 years exp) for "maximum salary of 45k Euro". And was told by their recruiter that this is considered high for Spain.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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Post by noitsnot » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:29 PM UTC

fnbr wrote: post #22

charlesdm wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people making a lot above average (because they negotiated well) generally don't want to share this publicly, because others will realise they are then being underpaid. As an example: would you tell a colleague "on the same level" as you that you're making $300k, when he is making $50 or $100k? That's either 1) an excellent way to get fired, because now everyone wants $300k, or 2) an excellent way to piss off you…

It is technically illegal to fire you for discussing this, at least in the US. I know at Google there's supposedly a big internal salary sharing doc started by Erica Baker, and she wasn't fired for it (although her manager was supposedly quite unhappy).

People come and go based on technicalities at this company all the time. It's really easy.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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Post by spraak » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:30 PM UTC

AndrewDucker wrote: post #3

Glassdoor is the place you want to go for this kind of information. You're not going to get anywhere near a large enough sample from a few comments on HN.

I only have a small sample set, but the companies I've worked for always had lower salaries on Glassdoor than me and my colleagues received. I think in part because when there is limited data or for anonymity, Glassdoor fudges the numbers a bit

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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Post by 4k » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:30 PM UTC

gautam1168 wrote: post #24

Only slightly related. Since many google employees will be here: How can I plan to land a job with google in 2 years if I have a physics masters and 1.5 years of web development + little exp. with other software stacks? I am trying to figure out a strategy to make it happen and I am willing to do anything, even go back to school. * How can I get an interview? It seems simply sending my resume through the online porta…

Others here would be in far better position to advice you, but from what I can say, having an awesome github portfolio will go a long way to compensate for the other handicaps you mentioned.

Once you are there, I'd say the best way would be to find someone in your network who works at google, and get referred. If you don't know anyone, make contacts through various channels.

Re: Ask HN: How much do you make at Facebook/Amazon/Apple/Netflix/Google/Microsoft?

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Post by desarun » Thu, Jan 04, 2018, 2:30 PM UTC

neospice wrote: post #19

LandR wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Salaries I see on Glass Door for Amazon for Scottish jobs are fairly accurate. A Developer will make anywhere between £35k and £50k depending on experience (this matches with what I saw when I was looking for a job a year ago)

Just curious: That seems disproportionately low compared to US salaries. Is cost of living proportionately lower in Scotland?

Yes, yes it is. Unless it's Edinburgh in August due to the Fringe festival, where rents go past London levels.