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Re: Ask HN: Do you do any mentoring outside of work?

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I'd encourage you to look for a local chapter of https://girlswhocode.com/ , see if there are after school programming clubs in your city (or start one), or sign up with https://hackhands.com/ and get paid to mentor.

I was a volunteer instructor through Girls Who Code through the 2016-2017 school year. It was a hugely rewarding experience.

I had a class of middle school girls who had never seen a line of code before. By the end of the course, they had learned enough of the basics of HTML, CSS, and Python to build a personal homepage and a simple game.

Re: Ask HN: Do you do any mentoring outside of work?

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I have been mentoring a friend over a 1.5 year span. We were both from the Market Research Data Processing domain. I managed the make the switch to software and helping him get proficient enough in web software development to land a junior position. So far I've just told him what courses to do on Udemy and Code school and helped him if he's got stuck. He's doing this for himself so the motivation is there. I just make a phone-call twice a day asking him his progress. Even if he's not made any it's fine - as he's managing this with his current work. He works from home and has 2 clients who pay him for MR DP work - so he makes time on weekends and early in the morning. This has already yielded him some really great benefits because he can now program web surveys and customise them for client requirements. Over time he's become really good at jQuery and CSS and has now done a RoR course and currently doing a node.js course on Udemy. If he continues to be open to mentoring I plan on putting him on an Erlang or Prolog or Haskell or Elm tutorial next.

I also mentored another relative. He was a fresher and just passed out of college - but with a "wrong" degree. He did commerce (that's what we call it in India, his dad is an accountant) - but wanted to be a programmer. I followed the same pattern with him. He also did a 1 year full time course in Software. He just recently landed a job as a Junior Dev. It's a start because the institute that he did the course with said that because of his background degree, he'll find it difficult to get a break with A-companies and should concentrate on B-class companies. I tried to convince him to now start solving problems on Hacker Rank and Project Euler and take about 3-6 months before applying for a job, but he was too anxious and went for a job that pays - I kid you not - INR 8000/- per month. They have said they will pay INR 16,000/- after 6 months if he does well.

One of the things I've found is it's hard to boost people's self esteem. The first guy i'm mentoring is too afraid to go for an interview because he doesn't want to fail. But anyway it's slow and steady progress up the ladder.

Re: Ask HN: Do you do any mentoring outside of work?

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I've done a lot of speaking at programmer groups in my area, try to be active in answering questions on a Slack group that's also setup for programmers in my area and taught a Rails and Postgres class a little while back. Would love to teach more but it's hard to find the time.

The Slack group is the most efficient way. If people find that they are able to get help by coming there, they tend to keep coming there.

Re: Ask HN: Do you do any mentoring outside of work?

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No, I don't.

While this answer is a bit short on detail, it does answer the question presented by OP. Are people therefore downvoting for the poster's lack of explanation, or because the poster doesn't mentor someone?

They're downvoting because a very large number of people don't do it, and it should be obvious that OP is interested in those primarily those who do -- or at least, those with reasons either way.

Just saying "No" presumes we care that this specific guy doesnt do some specific thing. It's quite arrogant.

Re: Ask HN: Do you do any mentoring outside of work?

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I wouldn't feel confident to mentor anyone on anything. I'd feel like a total fraud.

This can't be uncommon.

When I was a developer, I either felt like what I was doing could be done by a smart highschooler (probably better than I was doing it) because it was straight forward, or like I was figuring things out as I went along (because it was hard).

Now I do less development and more business analysis / architecture, I feel like I'm talking to a lot of far smarter people, and probably look smarter than I am because I'm echoing better informed peoples opinions back and forth.

All I could advise someone starting out in tech is to remember that no one really knows what they are doing.

Re: Ask HN: Do you do any mentoring outside of work?

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1. India has 10K AICTE approved engineering colleges. While some of these are IITs and NITs that you might've heard of, beyond the top 50-100 colleges, there is _no support system_ for the students. The curriculum of most state universities still updates in 5 years with little autonomy given to colleges. As a result, most students still see Java, C and dotNet as the universe of CS.

2. India's gender inequality in the workplace picks pace from higher education. In the college we mentor in, there are ~400 boys and ~50 girls. Out of which, 30 boys and 5 girls actively code today. Since there is substantial gender based teasing/harassment, most colleges in India lock women up post 8pm. Collaboration doesn't kick off because of such low density of students. Especially for girls.

3. We run this with 200 students over whatsapp. We have groups for fostering reading, internships & jobs, AMAs, competitive programming and so on. If you would like to help us scale this community, get in touch and we can talk in detail.

Re: Ask HN: Do you do any mentoring outside of work?

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I hope this is not frowned upon, but I'll hijack this thread to say: I'd love to have a mentor.

PM me and let me know how I can help. We can set up an initial set of emails.

1. What you currently do 2. What you would like to be doing/learning 3. Where you want to go From there, we can discuss how we can both work on your development. Thank you,

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