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Re: Ask HN: Life as a developer gets boring real quick.remedy?

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I notice you talk about what you have been doing (programming, proof writing) and what you haven't been doing (watching tv, reading), but not at all about what you'd like to be doing.

Find something you'd like to do, and the only way to do that is to explore other things than what you are currently doing (since you are obviously not finding real satisfaction in it).

Might I suggest volunteering your time or a charitable activity? That can be a very fulfilling activity for some.

Re: Ask HN: Life as a developer gets boring real quick.remedy?

#22
It sounds like you expect a lot out of your job. I think the 'as a developer' part is going fine. Not liking people is fine. I don't have any good advice on the picking a hobby part. Most of mine are not things I picked up because I enjoy them. They are things I started doing because I wanted to build something. You sound like you might have that in common. You could try woodworking; it provides you many opportunities to take shortcuts, which would show in the final product. That won't really help with the meaningless part, but it passes the time.

Re: Ask HN: Life as a developer gets boring real quick.remedy?

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Start your own company, or a side project. See how it goes.

The former isn't a decision to be taken lightly. It's also not a good idea if you're not in the right place mentally. Think of a company as an automobile that drains your emotional gas tank. If you start out with a low tank, you're going to have a bad time. Side projects however are great provided you enjoy the experience and don't let it turn into a job.

I think part of ops problem is having a purpose. There is nothing like having a company to force that.

Re: Ask HN: Life as a developer gets boring real quick.remedy?

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This is going to sound odd but I'd recommend journaling. You need to spend some time free writing to access your subconscious and gain insight into how you really feel and especially what you value. You'll be amazed at how effective it is. I'm of the opinion that a substantial share of ennui arises from a failure to commit to routine and honest introspection. With respect to software, your feelings may stem from a pe…

Thank you for the reply. The journaling part sounds very logical for anybody of any situation :) your words do ring a clarion Bell. Thank you so much

I'll piggyback on this and note it seems like you're self worth is tied up in some sort of uber coder thing. I can relate to a point. After I'd read Fred brooks and some other literature (specifically Weinberg) that talked about 10 or 100x programmers, and tied that with Paul Graham's beating the averages, I had this idea that a true uber programmer could reimplement some significant thing with enough cleverness, and suitably powerful language. A concrete example would be some 100x-er recreating Google in 6 months or something (this specific example is a bit flawed due to hardware and storage requirements but meh).

There are a lot of flaws with this line of reasoning, but mainly the activity of writing code becomes secondary to defining the problem domain and solution.

Re: Ask HN: Life as a developer gets boring real quick.remedy?

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I had the same issue around the middle of my job. I took a break, started a cafe, thought F&B would be something better. It immediately shocked me back into programming. That's one approach - just do something else (preferably low cost) and see what you like more. Some people did up liking F&B more than tech.

"Food and Beverage" should be obvious from the context, but I had to look it up. On r/entrepreneur they talk a lot about starting cleaning companies, as another example.

Re: Ask HN: Life as a developer gets boring real quick.remedy?

#30
>> After failing culture fit tests at companies

>> I don't like people that much though I do put up a front

Question: Do you not like people or do you not like the people you have to interact with on a regular basis? If you have to eat lunch with the people you work with, can you enjoy it or do you tolerate it/hate it?

I used to work in the consulting arm of a software company and got to interact with a lot of different teams. After the novelty of having a new challenge (new language, new algorithms, new project, etc) every few months wore off, I started to realize work was more enjoyable when I didn't mind spending time with the people I worked with. When I felt forced to work with people I didn't click with the work itself didn't matter - I felt either bored or frustrated. I asked about lunch because sometimes I'd rather have done anything else than try to force a conversation with some of the teams I used to work with.

"Enjoying" spending time with the people you work with is also not about after-hours or having a lively conversation. I used to work with a machine learning algorithm team that was filled with brilliant people, but they had zero interest in the typical office banter, small-talk, ping-pong, etc. Put them at a lunch table together and there conversations were not very animated. But after a while, an observer would realize these folks enjoyed spending time together, and there was a reason they had been together for 10+ years despite getting offers from big name companies who paid a lot more.

In my view it's easier to find a job with the a particular technology than it is to find a place where you can tolerate the people you work with for 40+ hours a week. I love to code and I'm introverted, but I struggled to fit in with the typical "developer" office environment and found myself happier in teams were I get to code but my role is more business facing.

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