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Ask HN: What does $2000 in Web design/development buy you these days?

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Re: Ask HN: What does $2000 in Web design/development buy you these days?

#21
It depends on who you go with. I know a secret - that price does not necessarily equate to quality + value when it comes to consulting work.

Some people are extremely talented & efficient but have never been exposed to the true value of their work. They are usually in college or recent grads, and probably live somewhere where well paying web work typically isn't either commonly found or fun.

It can be done for sure.

Re: Ask HN: What does $2000 in Web design/development buy you these days?

#22
post #4

I can't really speak to design (we do that in-house), but most of the good/keeper Rails developers that I've used in the last year have been in the $100-150/hour range. So, for $2K that gets you 13 to 20 hours of development. For that, I think you might be able to implement one of the features you mentioned but not all of them. I've had good luck finding developers at AuthenticJobs. If you post a freelance job there…

Really? 100-150/hour? Would you mind to share your experience? like... - how old they are - do they also help you with HTML/CSS? - do they also help you with graphics, icons, and contents? - what about unit-tests and quality? Would be very appreciated if you can answer them. If this is just between you and the developers and both parties prefer to be private and decided not to answer, I would understand. Thanks!

Yeah, I hope this doesn't sound bad but I wouldn't hire a US-based dev for under $50/hour. I don't feel $50 is inflated either—even in Tulsa that seems fair to me. To me, going below that is like having the guy down the street paint your car for $150. I'm hiring people for existing, production apps that are making money. I'll skimp on some things but not that.

As for age, I don't know but my guess is mid to late twenties. Of my most recent, one was in the bay area and one is a tech stars alum.

No, no help with HTML/CSS/graphics/icons. I do most of that myself. Plus we do a lot of Flash on the front end and have separate designers for that.

Testing is one area Ive found where the more expensive devs seem to separate themselves. Very thorough which is nice.

This may sound odd but I also try and hire developers who are smarter and better than myself. After almost every job, I glean from their code and end up learning a ton. If nothing else, the extra money we spend also goes to my own education.

Re: Ask HN: What does $2000 in Web design/development buy you these days?

#23
"What can I get for $2,000?" is an excellent question. As a consultant, I wish I'd get this question more often from cost-conscious customers rather than "how much is this going to cost me?", because the former is quite easy to quantify and quickly sets a budget and an expectation. The latter is very exploratory and immediately puts the consultant on the defensive.

Re: Ask HN: What does $2000 in Web design/development buy you these days?

#24
post #4

I can't really speak to design (we do that in-house), but most of the good/keeper Rails developers that I've used in the last year have been in the $100-150/hour range. So, for $2K that gets you 13 to 20 hours of development. For that, I think you might be able to implement one of the features you mentioned but not all of them. I've had good luck finding developers at AuthenticJobs. If you post a freelance job there…

Really? 100-150/hour? Would you mind to share your experience? like... - how old they are - do they also help you with HTML/CSS? - do they also help you with graphics, icons, and contents? - what about unit-tests and quality? Would be very appreciated if you can answer them. If this is just between you and the developers and both parties prefer to be private and decided not to answer, I would understand. Thanks!

* - how old they are*

Why does their age matter? Their ability to deliver is what should matter. The first time I charged $100/hour as a consultant I was 18, I'm fairly confident that I never had a customer turn down my services due to the number of times I'd traveled around the sun.

Re: Ask HN: What does $2000 in Web design/development buy you these days?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? 100-150/hour? Would you mind to share your experience? like... - how old they are - do they also help you with HTML/CSS? - do they also help you with graphics, icons, and contents? - what about unit-tests and quality? Would be very appreciated if you can answer them. If this is just between you and the developers and both parties prefer to be private and decided not to answer, I would understand. Thanks!

Yeah, I hope this doesn't sound bad but I wouldn't hire a US-based dev for under $50/hour. I don't feel $50 is inflated either—even in Tulsa that seems fair to me. To me, going below that is like having the guy down the street paint your car for $150. I'm hiring people for existing, production apps that are making money. I'll skimp on some things but not that. As for age, I don't know but my guess is mid to late twen…

Thank you very much for the answer.

Where I live (somewhere in Canada, one of the big Cities), sometime I would ask myself if I could make a decent living with Rails skill because the demands aren't too many (mostly they're looking for typical LAMP + jQuery/CSS/HTML or Drupal or Wordpress).

There are a few "shaky" startups looking for Rails developers but I'm guessing the pay is not that great and the company usually won't last long (2 years max).

Re: Ask HN: What does $2000 in Web design/development buy you these days?

#26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? 100-150/hour? Would you mind to share your experience? like... - how old they are - do they also help you with HTML/CSS? - do they also help you with graphics, icons, and contents? - what about unit-tests and quality? Would be very appreciated if you can answer them. If this is just between you and the developers and both parties prefer to be private and decided not to answer, I would understand. Thanks!

* - how old they are* Why does their age matter? Their ability to deliver is what should matter. The first time I charged $100/hour as a consultant I was 18, I'm fairly confident that I never had a customer turn down my services due to the number of times I'd traveled around the sun.

maybe my question should be modify to ask years-of-experience?

Re: Ask HN: What does $2000 in Web design/development buy you these days?

#27
post #4

I can't really speak to design (we do that in-house), but most of the good/keeper Rails developers that I've used in the last year have been in the $100-150/hour range. So, for $2K that gets you 13 to 20 hours of development. For that, I think you might be able to implement one of the features you mentioned but not all of them. I've had good luck finding developers at AuthenticJobs. If you post a freelance job there…

hey, authenticjobs seems pretty good. I hadn't heard of it til now.

Re: Ask HN: What does $2000 in Web design/development buy you these days?

#28
You can get more for your money if you can find an existing framework/solution to modify (e.g., BuddyPress), and can find a solid freelance developer or small shop to do the work.

People who charge 100-150 an hour are not doing web sites for college students.

Re: Ask HN: What does $2000 in Web design/development buy you these days?

#29
Simple answer is that it depends

Depends on if you care about the scalability, optimization, and speed of the site. If you do then you will pay a lot for US dev

The alternative is to outsource and get all those features for 2k. Go to elance, guru, odesk, or getafreelancer.

The latter I would suggest for proof of concept of prototyping an idea. Once you get a whole bunch of traffic and users you can rebuild it correctly when it's worth it to do so.

Launch fast with the least investment.

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