I honestly don't care. People shouldn't have private conversations or implicating pictures on Facebook, period.
If you don't do either of those two things, you'll be fine. No need to dramatically or publicly terminate your account.
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#22Nope. I'm not. Yes, privacy is important. However, the only information that I've ever put on Facebook is information that I'd want everyone else to know. That's why I have a Facebook; to give people who don't know me an idea of who I am and what I'm like, and get a little bit of personal branding out there. For instance, there's at least one little portion of my life that I don't want to be broadcast out to everyone…
I agree with a lot of what you're saying, and I'll miss Facebook for the very reason you like it, too. But I'm often more worried about what my friends do that can effect the amount of information out there, about me. Facebook makes it easy to inadvertently share information about your friends. That, I don't like. I'd love a replacement Facebook, one that is a little bit like Facebook used to be: relatively simple, u…
Much of the talk I have been around has been that Facebook is adjusting societies mores as it concerns to what information you share about oneself and how one judges others. The result of this could be that Gen Y and Z will have a better integrated outlook on people.
I'm not sure if this will actually be the case, there could be a backlash against this (much like the backlash against the sexual revolution of the 60s/70s) or simply that "oversharing" will be done by a section of society while the rest continue to judge as we do today.
I have unfettered access to a rather large social graph so I should make some studies of this.
Anyone know some good reading on the subject to get me started?
Re: Ask HN: Are you with me? Leaving Facebook.
#23I will if there is a better place to go. Or even a place that isn't better yet but could be made better by the early adopters.
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#24Sort of, never joined so I guess I'm effectively joining you.
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#25I think the 'don't put anything you want kept private on the internet' is, generally, a good argument. I will say though, that I do think Facebook encouraged a reasonable expectation that certain data would be 'private,' and that's since changed.
Re: Ask HN: Are you with me? Leaving Facebook.
#26Nope. I'm not. Yes, privacy is important. However, the only information that I've ever put on Facebook is information that I'd want everyone else to know. That's why I have a Facebook; to give people who don't know me an idea of who I am and what I'm like, and get a little bit of personal branding out there. For instance, there's at least one little portion of my life that I don't want to be broadcast out to everyone…
I WANT to, but I'm not either. I'm with steveklabnik in the sense that I dont share basically anything. it is tiring to have to always be updating my privacy settings to be kosher, but the in-laws want kid videos and this is my best medium. it's also handy for some other networking i always need to do for work.
Re: Ask HN: Are you with me? Leaving Facebook.
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with a lot of what you're saying, and I'll miss Facebook for the very reason you like it, too. But I'm often more worried about what my friends do that can effect the amount of information out there, about me. Facebook makes it easy to inadvertently share information about your friends. That, I don't like. I'd love a replacement Facebook, one that is a little bit like Facebook used to be: relatively simple, u…
Much of the talk I have been around has been that Facebook is adjusting societies mores as it concerns to what information you share about oneself and how one judges others. The result of this could be that Gen Y and Z will have a better integrated outlook on people. I'm not sure if this will actually be the case, there could be a backlash against this (much like the backlash against the sexual revolution of the 60s/…
Yep. I think this is what's happening. I wrote a bit about the topic on my blog a while back: http://blog.steveklabnik.com/the-burning-question-of-reputat...
If you find any other people discussing this, I'd be interested in reading, too.
Edit: It's kind of funny reading old things you've written. At the time, I felt like I might have said "asshole" one too many times when writing this post, and now I _definitely_ feel that way. Oh well, I apologize for the moderately excessive profanity.
Re: Ask HN: Are you with me? Leaving Facebook.
#28I've stopped using mine, removed all apps, unfollowed (er, unliked?) all pages. I'd guess the market is ripe for a fb-type site that, for lack of a better phrase, isn't evil. And doesn't have a horrible ux.
What features should it have? (Or not have?)
1: I want ACLs meet Web. I want to publish personal stuff to close friends & family, professional stuff to colleagues, and random miscellany to the world, all via the same tool. I want to be able to customize the layout of my content depending on the audience.
2: I want this without my friends and family having to learn about OpenID or having to sign up for a new account somewhere. (I don't know how to do this, I am just saying what I want. Posterous got this part right.)
3: I want to know that the investment I'm making in generating content will last. This means I need to trust that the host of my content is not going to disappear, or get bought and change its behavior radically. Alternatively, it means that I am given the ability to migrate my content to a well-behaved, API-implementing host elsewhere (including, possibly, on my own server).
Nothing I know of addresses this set of wants elegantly. Maybe because monetizing the social graph requires as much transparency from the participants as possible, at least according to current thinking. But I feel that eventually, what 'sharing on the web' means will inevitably evolve to accommodate this set of wants.
If Facebook decided to be less evil they could do ACLs-meet-web pretty easily, since they already have such a huge installed user base. In fact, they may have already done this a long time ago for all I know; back when I canceled my account, they did not have this capability.
Re: Ask HN: Are you with me? Leaving Facebook.
#29We need a decentralized social graph. I should host and own my data not facebook or any other organization. Maybe browsers should innovate and solve this problem.
You'd probably like OpenLike: http://openlike.org/
or OpenSocial: http://www.opensocial.org/
Not that OpenSocial took off or anything. And I'm not that confident in OpenLike, either.
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#30I never went in - i still don't understand the point of FB or others of their ilk.
If i really want to keep in touch with far-flung family, friends - i pick up the phone or drop an email. If they are important to me i will make the effort. I also don't find the need to advertise on a daily/hourly basis what i am doing or tell people about the cool car/bike/tv/ipod etc. i bought. May be its just not for people like me.