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Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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Post by moyta »

foldr wrote: post #11

>What's the worst that it will happen to you? I don't want to make this too personal, but I notice that in another post you were talking about how you have a site which is aiming to make it easier for Latinos to get jobs in tech. And by the way, it sucks that it got such a negative reaction, but HN is a very conservative forum. Trump's policies might not have an effect on you personally. (I'm aware that the majority…

It is very likely US citizens will be deported in the process, think about how many people it took to round up just 110,000 Japanese[1] during WW2 to put in concentration camps in the US, now think of it on the scale of tens of millions.

What do we do with the millions that are undocumented but have no nationality? Where can we put them? Are they perchance actually US Citizens that have been in the US since we took over vast swaths of Mexico?

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_America...

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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Post by Mimu »

vsergiu wrote: post #9
moyta wrote: post #3

The majority voted for Hillary, by 200,000 votes. Our electoral college system and the Democratic Party not controlling many states due to their own failings at state level politics is what is allowing Trump to win despite losing the popular vote. There is a deep seated fear of what will happen under Trump, whether that be the banning of abortions, another bubble like under George W Bush, the destruction of trade tie…

I don't like Trump... but the guy made billions ... even tho some people will argue that he avoided paying taxes and other stuff. Still... he is not stupid, he will not go bananas. I think there will be economic growth in America. Hopefully less corruption and no terrorism. Look at Europe... they have the "open mindset" approach and there are more problems there than anywhere in the world (regarding politics, terrori…

I believe Trump inherited his billions and actually lost money overall so he didn't made any $$.

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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Post by bjourne »

Because this is his position on global warming:

"Well, I think the climate change is just a very, very expensive form of tax. A lot of people are making a lot of money. I know much about climate change. ... " "NBC News just called it the great freeze - coldest weather in years. Is our country still spending money on the GLOBAL WARMING HOAX?" "I don’t believe in climate change." "The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."

The world is much more fucked than it was previously. Because with the US out, there is no way we'll be able to reach a world-wide agreement to reduce CO2 emissions enough to not cause catastrophic climate change.

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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Post by zimpenfish »

foldr wrote: post #16
informatimago wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't make him worse than Bush or Obama. It makes him more honest. I'd tend to think that people who express themselves outside of PC-talk, are actually better than those who learned to lie and hide their mischievous thoughts behind socially accepted PC-talk. The later consistenty do much worse things. You can always label bad things under "good" PC-words. How good is that?

Trump had a consistent record of telling lies during the campaign. He may have been honest about his racism but he was dishonest about a whole bunch of other things.

He's been consistently lying about everything since the early 70s.

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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Post by zimpenfish »

Mimu wrote: post #22
vsergiu wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't like Trump... but the guy made billions ... even tho some people will argue that he avoided paying taxes and other stuff. Still... he is not stupid, he will not go bananas. I think there will be economic growth in America. Hopefully less corruption and no terrorism. Look at Europe... they have the "open mindset" approach and there are more problems there than anywhere in the world (regarding politics, terrori…

I believe Trump inherited his billions and actually lost money overall so he didn't made any $$.

He inherited more than Paris Hilton and turned it into less than she did[1]. Also hasn't even outperformed an index fund[2].

[1] https://www.quora.com/Is-Donald-Trump-a-business-genius [2] http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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Post by muhammad11 »

foldr wrote: post #11

>What's the worst that it will happen to you? I don't want to make this too personal, but I notice that in another post you were talking about how you have a site which is aiming to make it easier for Latinos to get jobs in tech. And by the way, it sucks that it got such a negative reaction, but HN is a very conservative forum. Trump's policies might not have an effect on you personally. (I'm aware that the majority…

Latinos who are US citizens have nothing to worry about YOU ARE RIGHT! Why do the ones that are here illegally have right not to be threatened? They are breaking the law and hurting our citizens. We have to draw the line somewhere. The majority of Trump supporters are not full of hate, they are just tired of being taken advantage of

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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Post by foldr »

muhammad11 wrote: post #27
foldr wrote: post #11

>What's the worst that it will happen to you? I don't want to make this too personal, but I notice that in another post you were talking about how you have a site which is aiming to make it easier for Latinos to get jobs in tech. And by the way, it sucks that it got such a negative reaction, but HN is a very conservative forum. Trump's policies might not have an effect on you personally. (I'm aware that the majority…

Latinos who are US citizens have nothing to worry about YOU ARE RIGHT! Why do the ones that are here illegally have right not to be threatened? They are breaking the law and hurting our citizens. We have to draw the line somewhere. The majority of Trump supporters are not full of hate, they are just tired of being taken advantage of

Unless they have parents or other relatives who aren't officially allowed to be here. There are a lot of people in that situation. Deporting everyone who's in violation of immigration rules would involve splitting up an enormous number of families, and gut whole sections of the economy.

> The majority of Trump supporters are not full of hate,

But it's not Trump supporters who are now running the country. It's Donald Trump. It doesn't matter how nice you are if you vote for a hateful candidate.

Re: Ask HN: Why does everyone bash Trump? Seriously

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Post by pcunite »

>> Why does everyone bash Trump?

The media and vocal politically minded and linguistically astute people are bashing him. Take comfort in the quiet majority who are going back to work today and don't have time for throwing tantrums in the streets.

The election outcome is based on how the Electoral Collage works. Had it been based on a pure turnout, more people would have voted. I think only 5M voted in California? That is a tiny representation. So, not everyone even cares. Just a few with soapboxes.

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