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Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?

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Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?

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post #8

Military > Prison > Military? You mean to vent his rage?

Meaning if he ran cat5 cables for the Army he can run cat5 cables for anyone else.

Unfortunately I can't imagine many private companies are in need to of the skills one learns in the infantry.

Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?

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post #12

Because of the man's relatively common name, it was hard initially to find articles in the mainstream press about his exoneration (at least compared to his 2009 conviction). Here is a recent LA Times article that covers the boilerplate: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-palmdale-student...

It's probably best to search for "Raymond Lee Jennings." The media seem to prefer that formulation of his name, because it sounds creepier. This is the best news article: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-20160624-jenning... And this is a great blog post: http://mimesislaw.com/fault-lines/prosecutors-ask-court-to-r...

Convicted persons are usually referred to by full name for specificity, to distinguish them from others who might have similar names.

Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?

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post #12

Because of the man's relatively common name, it was hard initially to find articles in the mainstream press about his exoneration (at least compared to his 2009 conviction). Here is a recent LA Times article that covers the boilerplate: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-palmdale-student...

It's probably best to search for "Raymond Lee Jennings." The media seem to prefer that formulation of his name, because it sounds creepier. This is the best news article: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-20160624-jenning... And this is a great blog post: http://mimesislaw.com/fault-lines/prosecutors-ask-court-to-r...

Police reports and other legal/municipal documents usually contain middle names, so that's why we often know famous criminals (e.g. Lee Harvey Oswald) by their full names.

Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?

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post #5

In Germany the reimbursement is be 25 Euro[1] (28 USD) per day. I hope it's more i the US and other countries. [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haftentsch%C3%A4digung

In theory, California provides $124 a day in compensation to the wrongfully imprisoned. In practice, the State makes it VERY hard to ever recover those funds. There are guys who were exonerated years ago who are still waiting to receive a single penny.

Can you expound a little on what makes if difficult to recover the funds? What hoops must one jump through that wouldn't be plainly evident in RLJ's particular situation?

Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?

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post #10

I wonder if Dateline would have interest in updating his story, and if there might be any compensation for something like that. I'm not involved in TV production, but you would think if they had enough interest to report on his conviction (which happens every day) there would be an even better story regarding his release.

Dateline has asked me to sit down for an interview with Keith Morrison. I may do that, but there will be no compensation involved.

You may do that? You absolutely should. You're promoting his cause. See if you can have space in the program to talk about his transition and the financial assistance campaign in particular.

Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?

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post #4

What'd he do in the military? He may be able to leverage those skills for immediate employment.

He was an infantryman. Kicked down doors in Iraq going room-to-room searching for insurgents. Until the charges are formally dismissed, it's hard to imagine any employer will actually be willing to hire him. The DA's office is really making his life hard by refusing to just immediately stipulate that he's an innocent man.

Are there any job boards for businesses that would consider hiring felons (or innocent folks waiting for record to clear)?

I had no luck finding legit sites with a quick Google search, but maybe others are aware of something?

If nothing exists, that sounds like an interesting development opportunity.

Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?

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post #4

What'd he do in the military? He may be able to leverage those skills for immediate employment.

He was an infantryman. Kicked down doors in Iraq going room-to-room searching for insurgents. Until the charges are formally dismissed, it's hard to imagine any employer will actually be willing to hire him. The DA's office is really making his life hard by refusing to just immediately stipulate that he's an innocent man.

Has he expressed what kind of work he would like to do if he could?

Re: Ask HN: Just got an innocent man out of prison. What now?

#30
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory, California provides $124 a day in compensation to the wrongfully imprisoned. In practice, the State makes it VERY hard to ever recover those funds. There are guys who were exonerated years ago who are still waiting to receive a single penny.

Can you expound a little on what makes if difficult to recover the funds? What hoops must one jump through that wouldn't be plainly evident in RLJ's particular situation?

Sure. There are two primary issues.

First, the standard for being compensated is higher than the one for being let out of prison. Ray is free right now because the state has admitted that it no longer has confidence in his conviction.

However, it has not affirmatively conceded his innocence. That may sound pedantic. It let him out of prison and admits he isn't the target of the ongoing investigation. But from a legal perspective, it makes all the difference in regards to whether he is actually entitled to compensation.

Second, even if the State agrees that someone is theoretically entitled to compensation, there are significant budgetary delays. State law requires public hearings before funds can be appropriated, so sometimes you have to wait months upon months for the funds to be allocated... much less actually delivered.

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