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Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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Post by blackoil »

mr_O wrote: post #19
d--b wrote: post #4

Visual Studio and Webstorm are the most complete I'd say. Surely you can use Eclipse or IntelliJ (with kotlyn). -- Wait, when you say "web ide", do you mean "to make web projects" or do you mean "web-based ide"?

> do you mean "to make web projects" or do you mean "web-based ide"? That is a really interesting question. For 1: If you have no money try NetBeans / Eclipse. In my experience eclipse can be a pain in the ass if you need certain plugins etc. Sometimes you have to search the web for repo-adresses that are compatible with your IDE-version and the other plugins and if you don't use a new version you may have trouble in…

Visual Studio Community is also a free option. It is mostly feature complete, except few centered around enterprises.

https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-co...

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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Post by TimJRobinson »

mevile wrote: post #5

If you set up a node.js project with Webstorm through the Webstorm UI and deploy with a plugin or built in feature you've pretty much get the most fully integrated IDE there is for node projects. It has testing built in, debugging inside the IDE, dynamic updates your browser, supports a ton of JavaScript libraries and npm as well as React and ES6/ES7 syntax. There's nothing else really like it. IntelliJ based browser…

Just wanted to note that every thing you mentioned is also in Cloud9 along with easy sharing of your sites with clients / workmates, collaboration and deploying to production with ssh workspaces.

I switched from WebStorm (was using v9) to Cloud9 2 years ago and haven't looked back, for most Web Development jobs it makes more sense as you don't have to run a staging server to iterate on projects with clients (just send them a link) and you can collaborate in seconds.

I now work at Cloud9 :) after using it a while I was convinced working online where all your tools work together in the cloud is the future. It's way easier to integrate it with the rest of your work flow when you don't have that desktop cloud barrier.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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Post by frontendthing »

dafrankenstein2 wrote: post #22

Though its not an IDE, you can try using Visual Studio Code. This is free, open source and works in both Windows and Linux and have plugins available.Moreover, it itself is built using Javascript.

how is the privacy situation with this microsoft product? Can you say anything about that or are you just blindly using it?

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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Post by fucking_tragedy »

mevile wrote: post #5

If you set up a node.js project with Webstorm through the Webstorm UI and deploy with a plugin or built in feature you've pretty much get the most fully integrated IDE there is for node projects. It has testing built in, debugging inside the IDE, dynamic updates your browser, supports a ton of JavaScript libraries and npm as well as React and ES6/ES7 syntax. There's nothing else really like it. IntelliJ based browser…

If getting work done in a competent and featureful way matters (i.e. your time and ease of workflow is valuable to you), use a real IDE.

Web IDEs are fun. The IDEs satisfy a subset of users' need to try something new built on technologies they're familiar with. They might feel warm and fuzzy hearing certain buzzwords that describe the project.

But when it comes to getting shit done and having features that developers and companies will pay to use, JetBrains' and Microsoft's IDEs are the only ones to even come close to being real professional grade tools.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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Post by fucking_tragedy »

TimJRobinson wrote: post #23
mevile wrote: post #5

If you set up a node.js project with Webstorm through the Webstorm UI and deploy with a plugin or built in feature you've pretty much get the most fully integrated IDE there is for node projects. It has testing built in, debugging inside the IDE, dynamic updates your browser, supports a ton of JavaScript libraries and npm as well as React and ES6/ES7 syntax. There's nothing else really like it. IntelliJ based browser…

Just wanted to note that every thing you mentioned is also in Cloud9 along with easy sharing of your sites with clients / workmates, collaboration and deploying to production with ssh workspaces. I switched from WebStorm (was using v9) to Cloud9 2 years ago and haven't looked back, for most Web Development jobs it makes more sense as you don't have to run a staging server to iterate on projects with clients (just sen…

Cloud9 looks like an awesome product. I haven't seen a such a comprehensive web-based development environment.

However, this exemplifies why I find it hard to use web-based IDEs regularly[0].

[0] http://i.imgur.com/GHPZTEe.jpg

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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Post by HyprMusic »

thejosh wrote: post #11
mevile wrote: post #5

If you set up a node.js project with Webstorm through the Webstorm UI and deploy with a plugin or built in feature you've pretty much get the most fully integrated IDE there is for node projects. It has testing built in, debugging inside the IDE, dynamic updates your browser, supports a ton of JavaScript libraries and npm as well as React and ES6/ES7 syntax. There's nothing else really like it. IntelliJ based browser…

Also enable zero latency typing. Massive difference.

For those who had never heard of this setting before, there is an interesting blog post about it on the JetBrains blog: http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2015/08/experimental-zero-lat...

tl;dr: Add "editor.zero.latency.typing=true" to the "idea.properties" file.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a reasonable, actually integrated Web IDE out there?

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Post by kyriakos »

thejosh wrote: post #11
mevile wrote: post #5

If you set up a node.js project with Webstorm through the Webstorm UI and deploy with a plugin or built in feature you've pretty much get the most fully integrated IDE there is for node projects. It has testing built in, debugging inside the IDE, dynamic updates your browser, supports a ton of JavaScript libraries and npm as well as React and ES6/ES7 syntax. There's nothing else really like it. IntelliJ based browser…

Also enable zero latency typing. Massive difference.

Didnt't know about this option. Thanks
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