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Re: Ask HN: Experience with job hunting on starfighters.io?

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Post by jgalt212 »

tptacek wrote: post #16
mrfusion wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They should also least guarantee no whiteboard coding if you pass the game. That would be worthwhile.

I would love to guarantee things like that. In fact: I'd love to guarantee no whiteboard coding for anyone , because whiteboard coding is stupid. But we're just a goofy game company right now, not a force of nature. Generally: if you're not into the CTF stuff for its own sake, because you like doing this kind of thing for fun, we're not asking you to be involved. We hate the idea of being another hoop to jump through…

> because whiteboard coding is stupid

not so. I've found it's an effective way to not only judge how people think, but also how they communicate and respond to live feedback.

Re: Ask HN: Experience with job hunting on starfighters.io?

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Post by tptacek »

jgalt212 wrote: post #21
tptacek wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love to guarantee things like that. In fact: I'd love to guarantee no whiteboard coding for anyone , because whiteboard coding is stupid. But we're just a goofy game company right now, not a force of nature. Generally: if you're not into the CTF stuff for its own sake, because you like doing this kind of thing for fun, we're not asking you to be involved. We hate the idea of being another hoop to jump through…

> because whiteboard coding is stupid not so. I've found it's an effective way to not only judge how people think, but also how they communicate and respond to live feedback.

I've been interviewing developers since 1996. Everyone who has ever done a whiteboard interview says this.

Are you interviewing people for some kind of live coding game show? If so: I concede your point.

Re: Ask HN: Experience with job hunting on starfighters.io?

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Post by solutionyogi »

This comment is tangentially related to the topic.

Thomas and Patrick:

First I want to thank you for trying to address one of the most frustrating part of a developer's career.

As you know very well, after Silicon Valley, it's the finance companies in NYC area who pay top notch developer salaries. Even though I am a competent developer, it was quite a struggle for me to break in to the finance industry (They only wanted to hire people with finance experience). It took me a little while but I was able to break in. Now I am over that hump but I am faced with another problem. I have been working in 'Back office' for hedge funds for several years and would like to transition to 'Front office' and I am faced with the same problem again. I am not able to switch roles because I don't have experience working in the front office. The Stock Fighter CTF is a perfect way to demonstrate the relevant ability to prospective employers. Do you guys have any plan to work with hedge funds/investment banks for your recruiting platform?

Re: Ask HN: Experience with job hunting on starfighters.io?

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Post by jgalt212 »

tptacek wrote: post #22
jgalt212 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> because whiteboard coding is stupid not so. I've found it's an effective way to not only judge how people think, but also how they communicate and respond to live feedback.

I've been interviewing developers since 1996. Everyone who has ever done a whiteboard interview says this. Are you interviewing people for some kind of live coding game show? If so: I concede your point.

> Everyone who has ever done a whiteboard interview.

I didn't know you knew everyone who has ever done a whiteboard interview. I must concede to the omniscient observer.

Re: Ask HN: Experience with job hunting on starfighters.io?

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Post by jgalt212 »

tptacek wrote: post #22
jgalt212 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> because whiteboard coding is stupid not so. I've found it's an effective way to not only judge how people think, but also how they communicate and respond to live feedback.

I've been interviewing developers since 1996. Everyone who has ever done a whiteboard interview says this. Are you interviewing people for some kind of live coding game show? If so: I concede your point.

> live coding game show

like Starfighter?

Re: Ask HN: Experience with job hunting on starfighters.io?

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Post by tptacek »

jgalt212 wrote: post #27
tptacek wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been interviewing developers since 1996. Everyone who has ever done a whiteboard interview says this. Are you interviewing people for some kind of live coding game show? If so: I concede your point.

> live coding game show like Starfighter?

Huh? I don't follow. We're not hiring people with whiteboard interviews either.
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