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Re: Ask HN: Should engineering jobs have a nap time?

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You: "Hey, you know that 40-hour work week we have in order to give us enough time for rest and relaxation?" Boss: "Yep. What about it?" You: "So instead of getting enough sleep at night I've been using that time to take on lots of extra paid work for other companies. To make up for it, can you give me time off to sleep at work?" Boss: ಠ_ಠ

> 40-hour work week Where in the software industry are you working a 40-hour week? Outside of government, I've never heard of a programming job that consistently limits employees to 40-hour weeks.

Depends what country you live in. I'm in the UK and 40 hour or less weeks are extremely common.

Re: Ask HN: Should engineering jobs have a nap time?

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This is simply about priorities. You, or your time are not more important than the people cutting cheques to you. Your only job in side gigs or main jobs is to add value.

I'll say it again, your job is to add more value than you are paid by a job or freelancer. It's a tricky balance. You are hired full-time to give full time results, and being prepared to do so is your job is your non-full time hours which you can choose to spend.

Asking your full-time job to subsidize your time and energy to make money elsewhere doesn't make a lot of sense.

There is a capacity limit for every human being and you may need to rethink your business model, bring on help, and pick up management skills to not work harder, but perhaps work less and make more for those hours worked.

Things don't get easier, you just get better if you dive a bit more into achieving your goals in a way that aren't at the expense of others.

Re: Ask HN: Should engineering jobs have a nap time?

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you could work in spain. Everyone gets a 2 hour nap time - it's ciesta baby!

Not true at all. The concept of "siesta" exists, but nobody does it at work. It's mostly something for retired people with a lot of free time and not much to do.

So what do all the retail staff do when the shops close between 12 and 3?

Re: Ask HN: Should engineering jobs have a nap time?

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post #19

You: "Hey, you know that 40-hour work week we have in order to give us enough time for rest and relaxation?" Boss: "Yep. What about it?" You: "So instead of getting enough sleep at night I've been using that time to take on lots of extra paid work for other companies. To make up for it, can you give me time off to sleep at work?" Boss: ಠ_ಠ

> 40-hour work week Where in the software industry are you working a 40-hour week? Outside of government, I've never heard of a programming job that consistently limits employees to 40-hour weeks.

In what universe / on what drugs is it possible to crank out more than eight hours of decent programming per day? Even eight hours a day would be too much for me.

Re: Ask HN: Should engineering jobs have a nap time?

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> 40-hour work week Where in the software industry are you working a 40-hour week? Outside of government, I've never heard of a programming job that consistently limits employees to 40-hour weeks.

In what universe / on what drugs is it possible to crank out more than eight hours of decent programming per day? Even eight hours a day would be too much for me.

Eight?

Try more like 4 (and that's a stretch)

Re: Ask HN: Should engineering jobs have a nap time?

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I work at a software company in China. Like clockwork, at 1pm, the lights are cut, shades are drawn, then everybody pulls little beds out from their desks and takes a nap. It struck me as quite strange the first time I observed it. The actual work day is something like 10-12 hours including nap/lunch/dinner/goofing off time, with probably about the same amount of actual work as in an American office. I am unable to adapt to this, even when I am exhausted, so I use the time to go to the gym or just keep working.

Re: Ask HN: Should engineering jobs have a nap time?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 40-hour work week Where in the software industry are you working a 40-hour week? Outside of government, I've never heard of a programming job that consistently limits employees to 40-hour weeks.

Depends what country you live in. I'm in the UK and 40 hour or less weeks are extremely common.

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Re: Ask HN: Should engineering jobs have a nap time?

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post #19

You: "Hey, you know that 40-hour work week we have in order to give us enough time for rest and relaxation?" Boss: "Yep. What about it?" You: "So instead of getting enough sleep at night I've been using that time to take on lots of extra paid work for other companies. To make up for it, can you give me time off to sleep at work?" Boss: ಠ_ಠ

> 40-hour work week Where in the software industry are you working a 40-hour week? Outside of government, I've never heard of a programming job that consistently limits employees to 40-hour weeks.

Aerospace. If I have to put in a 50 hour week, something's gone horribly wrong and its probably an "all hands on deck" situation.
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