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Ask HN: Blacklist Forbes?

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Re: Ask HN: Blacklist Forbes?

#21

To lawyers here: if my PC gets infected on Forbes, who is liable? Forbes or the AD provider or ???

Probably should be a chain, so you sue Forbes, Forbes sues the ad network and the network sues the advertiser.

In reality, Forbes lawyers would beat you with a big stick and demonstrate that their public terms and conditions that nobody reads, absolve themselves from any responsibility!

Re: Ask HN: Blacklist Forbes?

#22
post #10

Is it possible? Of course it is! From their current site I gathered these domains (these are the ones uBlock doesn't block by default): forbes.com forbesimg.com forbes_video.edgesuite.net app-ab13.marketo.com If you're using uBlock Origin you can simply click on the uBlock -icon on the top left in your browser, click on the grey bar on top of the box that opened, go to "My Filters" and insert the above snippet into t…

I'm pretty sure he was talking about blacklisting forbes.com links on HN.

Oh, now that makes more sense. Sorry! Anyway blacklisting their content in the browser might be nice too.

Re: Ask HN: Blacklist Forbes?

#23

This seems to be becoming a lot more common. Whenever I search for answers to Go-related questions, a website called "socketloop.com" is always the top search result. Although they have extraordinary SEO when it comes to serving content to Google or Bing crawlers, they don't serve traffic AT ALL to browsers with AdBlock installed. Really frustrating... that blog site is turning into the "expertsexchange.com" of Go. I…

You could also disable JavaScript for socketloop. Works fine for me.

Re: Ask HN: Blacklist Forbes?

#24
post #3

I agree. But I would go even farther. Block every site where you won't be able to read the content without having Javascript enabled. I have experienced several blogs where you won't see anything without Javascript.

Why should I be deprived of interesting content that requires javascript to be viewed? If you don't want javascript, it's your problem, not mine.

Re: Ask HN: Blacklist Forbes?

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post #12

Agreed. Forbes is a mainstream news source and doesn't belong on HN anyway. They don't have articles of technical substance about computer hacking. Edit: It'd be nice if the folks downvoting would take the time to explain how they feel about this topic. Are there Forbes articles that actually pertain to the act of computer hacking, and not just modern (computerized) business?

I didn't downvote you but I'll give my thoughts.

Firstly there's been quite a few articles posted to HN that aren't even technology related, let alone being of proper substance, yet are still of interest to HN readers. For example I have fond memories reading through a bee keeping article posted here and the discussion that followed. Due to the popularity of that article and others like it, I think it's fair to say the readership isn't fixed on the idea that all articles must even be strictly technology related. Secondly you'll notice that BBC articles get posted here quite often and that's absolutely a mainstream news source.

Re: Ask HN: Blacklist Forbes?

#26
post #12

Agreed. Forbes is a mainstream news source and doesn't belong on HN anyway. They don't have articles of technical substance about computer hacking. Edit: It'd be nice if the folks downvoting would take the time to explain how they feel about this topic. Are there Forbes articles that actually pertain to the act of computer hacking, and not just modern (computerized) business?

Because HN is not (just) for articles about computer hacking.

First paragraph of the Guidelines:

What to Submit

On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

Re: Ask HN: Blacklist Forbes?

#27
I don't like Forbes and can't remember a single Forbes submission on HN that I've gotten any value from, but this is just one in a long list of sites people believe should be banned from HN for reasons other than the content that they publish.

I don't think this is a can of worms anyone really wants to open.

If you don't want to unwittingly visit Forbes, edit your /etc/hosts file.

Re: Ask HN: Blacklist Forbes?

#28
post #3

I agree. But I would go even farther. Block every site where you won't be able to read the content without having Javascript enabled. I have experienced several blogs where you won't see anything without Javascript.

Isn't this a bit extreme? Many websites use client-side rendering via frameworks like Angular, React, etc.

The point is that for delivering document content like articles to browsers, client side rendering is inferior, and they should be depending on angular or react to render the content.

I do think it's a little extreme to ban sites that do this, but I also don't think that sites should do it and if banning them from HN means they won't then maybe that's not so crazy. I don't think banning them from HN will help, though.

Re: Ask HN: Blacklist Forbes?

#29
post #21

To lawyers here: if my PC gets infected on Forbes, who is liable? Forbes or the AD provider or ???

Probably should be a chain, so you sue Forbes, Forbes sues the ad network and the network sues the advertiser. In reality, Forbes lawyers would beat you with a big stick and demonstrate that their public terms and conditions that nobody reads, absolve themselves from any responsibility!

I'm not sure I buy that having a terms page and me viewing some other page on their site constitutes an agreement that absolves Forbes.com from liability or protects them from you suing them.

Re: Ask HN: Blacklist Forbes?

#30
post #18

I don't use an ad-blocker to avoid problems like this. Why should ad blockers be considered the default state?

Things like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10870892

Serving malware seems like a much more serious problem. That sounds like a good reason for banning by itself, regardless of what they do to ad blockers.
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