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Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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Post by HenryBemis »

paxys wrote: post #181
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no real way to handle the influx of applications these days since it's so easy to apply, especially on platforms like LinkedIn. I just take the first X and try to find a qualified applicant. I'm at a small company, we simply can't process 1000 resumes.

Yup. Whenever people post stuff like "I sent out 1000 applications and haven't received a response" I always think - if you so easily sent out thousands of applications then so did everyone else, which means companies are dealing with an overwhelming volume of applications for each position and you aren't really standing out in any way.

Also, that person sends his/her CV to any job ad they see, even if there is a 30% match in the reqs. I got a friend with IT Audit background. He has spent ALL his life doing IT Audit, and while some skills are transferable, it doesn't make sense he applies for a CISO role. Yet he applies to every job ad that has the words Audit, Security, Compliance. Only to be rejected from all.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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Post by david38 »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #41
buro9 wrote: post #29

I work at Grafana, and we be hiring, I posted on the Who's Hiring in January and that was a big mistake. I've posted before (probably 6 times a year as I miss the 1st sometimes) and had few to no responses, but in January I had over 50 responses in the first few hours, and it continued to elicit responses for the next week. Employers are swamped right now, there are a lot of people seeking few positions. I've gone fr…

There is no real way to handle the influx of applications these days since it's so easy to apply, especially on platforms like LinkedIn. I just take the first X and try to find a qualified applicant. I'm at a small company, we simply can't process 1000 resumes.

Google limits you to three applications every 30 days

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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Post by dgfitz »

influx wrote: post #79
dgfitz wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This describes me as well. I’m almost to the point of grinding leetcode and learning react or some such front end. I have no AWS-esque type skills or anything scaling/web related. My last pref. review I was told “you’re the guy we ask to solve problems 10x harder than the other devs. Anyone can patch a bug, we always ask you to figure out the things nobody else can.” Which unfortunately doesn’t translate well on a re…

Build a small web project on AWS using Terraform, and Node/React running on a container platform with a full cicd platform. I have your background and doing this increased my scope and kills significantly.

I will take this advice to heart. Thank you.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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Post by momdad420 »

btbuildem wrote: post #114
paxys wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No candidate is interviewing for a job already having made up their mind about whether they are going to stay for 6 months or 10 years. If you are trying to somehow filter on that you are just wasting your own time. People stay or quit based on factors during the job. Is the salary good? Is the company growing? Are their career goals being met? Is the management competent? Are they feeling burnt out? Focus on all of…

Maybe a junior straight out of boot camp doesn't know what they'll be doing in six months -- but generally people have some kind of intent, eg, "I'd like to have a stable job for the next three years" or something along those lines. I don't think GP is asking a candidate to know whether they'll stay for years at GP's org -- they're asking that the candidate have the intention of staying ~somewhere~ for a longer stint…

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Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

Who is responsible for creating, marketing and selling Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS) software?

Is it staff in HR departments comprised of what HN likes to call "non-technical people"?

Did so-called "non-technical people" seek a 10x increase in the number of applicants and then enlist software developers to make it happen.

What is the story behind the spread of "ATS".

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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Post by dredmorbius »

david38 wrote: post #192
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no real way to handle the influx of applications these days since it's so easy to apply, especially on platforms like LinkedIn. I just take the first X and try to find a qualified applicant. I'm at a small company, we simply can't process 1000 resumes.

Google limits you to three applications every 30 days

Interesting.

Adding an application-cost to the dynamic seems to be one sensible approach to applicant-spamming.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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Post by rrr_oh_man »

paxys wrote: post #183
rrr_oh_man wrote: post #36

To everyone struggling to get hired: Start your own thing. Seriously.

If you are struggling to get hired AND have a massive financial cushion AND have the right connections in the industry to get funding for your project AND are at a stage in life where failure will not have real consequences. Most people out there need to put food on the table for their families and make rent next month, and so don't have the above luxuries.

I’m not talking about VC-funded moon shots, that’s your bias showing.

And it’s not a luxury, it’s a necessity for a knowledge worker, imho.

Working on my own (non-monetized, small, used by no-one) stuff has created a string of achievements that created a positive psychological feedback loop during a very dark time.

Additionally, it let me work on things that then let me pivot in a completely different direction compared to what I was doing before and make money this way.

Personal development is good. Even / especially if you need to whore yourself out at the same time.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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Post by rrr_oh_man »

throwaway458864 wrote: post #64
rrr_oh_man wrote: post #36

To everyone struggling to get hired: Start your own thing. Seriously.

Might as well ask the hungry to start their own farm

Ideally you’d both remedy the current situation but also start building for the future.

The best time to start a business was five years ago, the second best time is now.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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Post by david38 »

dredmorbius wrote: post #196
david38 wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google limits you to three applications every 30 days

Interesting. Adding an application-cost to the dynamic seems to be one sensible approach to applicant-spamming.

It really makes you consider. “I want to do this job or this job is the most realistic one for me to get” instead of just buying tons of lotto tickets to get a google interview

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting their job applications rejected?

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Post by dredmorbius »

david38 wrote: post #199
dredmorbius wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. Adding an application-cost to the dynamic seems to be one sensible approach to applicant-spamming.

It really makes you consider. “I want to do this job or this job is the most realistic one for me to get” instead of just buying tons of lotto tickets to get a google interview

This is ultimately the common factor in spam mitigation. If the costs of transmitting or submitting a message are nil, then the spammer will submit them.

It's also why reducing costs of communications can backfire in all kinds of obnoxious ways. I remember getting my first email account, nearly forty years ago now, and being able to communicate near instantaneously, and with no cost, to ... a very, very, very small handful of people.

Even in the corporate world of the early 1990s, email addresses were sufficiently rarified that for the most part you'd communicate with a few colleagues at the same firm, and perhaps some contacts at other companies, if you were in a technical position (as I was at the time).

I can distinctly recall being in a bookstore in the late 1990s the first time I heard a mother talking with her daughter about a new friend the daughter had made, and the mother asking if the daughter had shared her email address.

Other than cost imposition, the best suggestion I've had for information overload is to have a cheap, unbiased, low-cost, no-regrets information rejection capability.

Earlier mentions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37440218> and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22208255>.

Of course, for established contacts you'd want to override that.

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