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Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work personally?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work personally?

#191
This is from a different disciple - creative advertising, but I think it holds up to most other creative tasks. Advertising is renowned for having sometimes very brutal feedback / cancellations at the last minute / being very competitive etc.

An old creative director I knew used to say, almost like a mantra, to the entire group as work was being presented and judged that ‘we are on a journey’.

If you don’t think about it, it could just sound like wanky media BS. But it’s not.

It’s about kind of surrendering yourself to this journey and that being what’s important. Don’t worry about a few mis steps or failures here and there. Leave your ego out of it. We’re still all just on the journey. It’s also about not getting too obsessed with knowing exactly where you’re going. You will figure that out as you go based on things going right or wrong.

I find it a nice way to think about doing anything creative.

Re: Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work personally?

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At some point, I realized that there's a disconnect between "me" and "my work". My work is a result of circumstance, like, what my mood was when I did it, how well I know the particular domain, if I've seen solutions to similar problems before, what tools were available and understandable to me at the time. In other words, the quality of my work depends much more on what the particular task was, than on some inherent…

I the same, and it seems to be a realization that comes from past experience. I’m the most senior developer on the project I’m currently working, and I make just as many mistakes as new hires and juniors, the difference is that I probably am able to turn around and fix it a lot faster.

Personally I frame it differently these days:

I do a lot of micro experiments, most of which don't work. But I've gotten better and faster at performing these experiments over time. The more of those I make, the more I learn, the more suitable the solution can be.

When an author makes edits on a draft, those are steps to a finished product. We're similar: our steps result in learning, and that's the most essential element of a good product.

Re: Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work personally?

#194
It helped me to understand that one of the reasons I'm upset about someone pointing out flaws in my work is that it could directly affect my livelihood. Too many problems and I might not get a good raise, or even get fired.

The company I'm at isn't really like that, but I've worked at enough that it's really, really hard not to think they will be. And so the instinctive reaction is to defend myself. I think I do pretty good at controlling it now, though.

Re: Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work personally?

#195
Depends on environment you work in. I had a great chance to work with people who showed me how it’s done properly and told what can I do better and I did. That was awesome constructive place. At the moment I am in very toxic place, looking for a new job. And I don’t feel anything constructive. It’s really personal. The colleagues try to use every weakness and my every error to take advantage of. Hopefully soon I will be in a better place. Where I can learn again instead of fighting back.

Re: Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work personally?

#197
Stop judging others so harshly it’s probably the #1 way. Whatever measure you use is going to be used on you. Step #2 is probably to listen fully to the end before ever speaking. This is hard, and took me a long time to get right. Just let them speak.

When receiving feedback, start by saying internally, or even verbally, I realize that I’ve made a mistake, and I’m thankful you have my best interests in mind and feel comfortable enough to approach me about it. I tried my best, but what did I not understand correctly about the problem I was supposed to solve, and what would have you done instead?

Re: Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work personally?

#198
My personal approach is to not identify with my work. The code is a mean to an end which is solving the problem at hand. If someone has a better approach, they are contributing. If they are bitching in the comments, it means that they have nothing better to do and my time is more important than dealing with them.

It does not always work, especially if I'm tired or distracted, but if I start catching that I'm getting annoyed, I try to take a break.

Re: Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work personally?

#199
There is more than meet the eye. Some people will mess with you in a subtle way. They are able to play with your emotions in a way you wouldnt think is possible because they learnt at the very young age.

You've got to learn to differentiate "you are acting like a child" and "someone somewhere is playing with you". Listen and trust your feelings. If you're feeling bad, 90% of the time it's your body warning you of some external danger.

Force yourself to trust yourself.

Re: Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work personally?

#200

It helped me to understand that one of the reasons I'm upset about someone pointing out flaws in my work is that it could directly affect my livelihood. Too many problems and I might not get a good raise, or even get fired. The company I'm at isn't really like that, but I've worked at enough that it's really, really hard not to think they will be. And so the instinctive reaction is to defend myself. I think I do pret…

A good company should have processes in place to minimize the chances that people make mistakes. When mistakes inevitably happen, all the company made the mistake as a whole, not the single person. What happens next should be: what happened? Why did it happen? How are we fixing it? What are we doing not the make it happen again? plus possibly other mistake minimization processes.

If your company is not firing people for making too many mistakes it seems that it's structured in that way or a similar one.

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