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Re: Ask HN: I have 176 logins/accounts. How many do you have?

#192

If I need to login to your site less than once or twice a year, "Forgot my password" is my password manager. Personally, I feel that the utility of me working to keep and maintain that information in a database for high availability is essentially zero. As a result, I store very few accounts overall and checking out as "guest" hasn't been a problem of any sort. There's like 10 critical things that I feel the need to…

Checking out with guest is okay, as long as you are judicious about not deleting emails.

I often order something and need to login and retrieve the order info for a return or warranty information. Or if I’m ordering an item or similar item and want to refer to prior purchase. And some ordering website absolutely do give good order tracking for Guest checkouts. We have no covered entry, so like to know when our packages will arrive if it is raining.

Re: Ask HN: I have 176 logins/accounts. How many do you have?

#193
270 login credentials work+personal. I don't use 'sign in with Google'. I regularly try (not always successfully) to go through my 1Password vault and delete accounts that I haven't used in a while.

(I wish 1Password let you order credentials by "last used". This way I could start deleting from the oldest last used accounts.)

I wish I had less accounts because each account means some random website holding my data hostage. It's too common that a website doesn't allow you to delete an account. Sometimes you can find a support email and request a deletion. Other times, all I can do is try to replace my data with junk data. Although, even that isn't possible sometimes!

(Rocketbook won't let you change your email, for example. Or ChatGPT saves your phone number after you delete your account.)

Re: Ask HN: I have 176 logins/accounts. How many do you have?

#195

Over 500, though I have no idea how many of them still exist. I use a password manager and unique email addresses, why would I care how many accounts I have?

What are you using for unique email accounts? DIY or some service?

DIY on fastmail with custom domain.

Re: Ask HN: I have 176 logins/accounts. How many do you have?

#196

Shit, just looking at the replies, there's a solid case for password managers. No normal human is going to memorize 100+ unique passwords meeting various complexity requirements. It almost makes shaming people for re-using passwords look like you're out of touch. Of course they're following bad practices, how could they not be?!

> . No normal human is going to memorize 100+ unique passwords meeting various complexity requirements.

No, they're either going to reuse their passwords or use post-its or excel.

> It almost makes shaming people for re-using passwords look like you're out of touch.

Shaming regular people for reusing passwords _is_ out of touch.

Re: Ask HN: I have 176 logins/accounts. How many do you have?

#197

Around 300 at this point, sans any deleted ones. I don't think I know a single password anymore, since they're all randomized and separate for each site. > Obviously, anything with OAuth is "bundled" into my Google account. Maybe it's just me, but I try to never use centralized identity providers (outside of things that I really don't care about) and use separate e-mail auth whenever possible, across multiple e-mail…

Similar, around 290 personal accounts. In addition comes the logins and such for various internal services like Home Assistant, PiHole etc. Total over 400 in my password manager. I keep wishing for something better. A great start would be to reduce friction, by having some standardized interop between browsers and a password manager. Like, my browser shouldn't know or care about passwords, it should just mediate the…

> some standardized interop between browsers and a password manager. Like, my browser shouldn't know or care about passwords, it should just mediate the authentication request to my chosen password manager through some standardized means.

This way lies dragons. Browsers are among the most complicated software that most people run on their machines these days, and the number of bugs lurking in them is probably large.

I don't use any browser plugins for password managers, choosing instead either to copy/paste them by hand from my password manager, or using xdotool or hammerspoon to type them in.

Re: Ask HN: I have 176 logins/accounts. How many do you have?

#200

Shit, just looking at the replies, there's a solid case for password managers. No normal human is going to memorize 100+ unique passwords meeting various complexity requirements. It almost makes shaming people for re-using passwords look like you're out of touch. Of course they're following bad practices, how could they not be?!

It's a solid case for FIDO2 keys.

- Inherent MFA that is faster and more secure than SMS codes, or app notifications.

- One pin code and/or biometric to remember rather than hundreds.

The answer isn't to add another layer of management to passwords, but to eliminate passwords as a method of authentication.

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