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Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by wstuartcl »

RajT88 wrote: post #143

Get in touch with your CSAM. They will be able to get you assigned a capacity manager, if you don't already have one assigned. It is the function of the capacity manager to help you plan ahead based on what the data center capacities look like going into the future. Meet monthly with your capacity manager. Get representation across different technology interests - database, compute, storage, event hubs, etc. Don't ev…

Not much better than "meet with Infrastructure in Nov to plan next years capacity and server purchases" for on prep -- has Azure really degraded down to this?

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by marcosdumay »

l-p wrote: post #131

> We never thought our startup would be threatened by the unreliability of a company like Microsoft You're new to Azure I guess. I'm glad the outage I had yesterday was only the third major one this year, though the one in august made me lose days of traffic, months of back and forth with their support, and a good chunk of my sanity and patience in face of blatant documented lies and general incompetence. One consume…

New Microsoft customer at all.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by MildlySerious »

This is a bit tangential, but now might be a good time to experiment with raising the price of your product. It might extend the time you have until you have to stop accepting new users entirely, in case your migration is taking longer than needed.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by adrr »

l-p wrote: post #131

> We never thought our startup would be threatened by the unreliability of a company like Microsoft You're new to Azure I guess. I'm glad the outage I had yesterday was only the third major one this year, though the one in august made me lose days of traffic, months of back and forth with their support, and a good chunk of my sanity and patience in face of blatant documented lies and general incompetence. One consume…

Azure has some of the biggest outages like when they went down on Feb29th for the whole day.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/summary-of-windows-az...

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by hgsgm »

janober wrote: post #20
xwowsersx wrote: post #10

Oof, that sucks and I feel for you. That said... > setting up in a new region would be complicated for us. Sounds to me like you've got a few weeks to get this working. Deprioritize all other work, get everyone working on this little DevOps/Infra project. You should've been multi-region from the outset, if not multi-cloud. When using the public cloud, we do tend to take it all for granted and don't even think about t…

Thanks a lot! You are totally right, it is for sure something we will find a solution for. But honestly, do I not want to. As a startup, you have very few resources and deliberately place some exact bets. Deprioritizing everything to work on something for a long time that was not prioritized, just to then end up again where you were before (a working cloud solution) is the last thing any startup should be forced to d…

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Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by prmoustache »

omk wrote: post #170

While some may immediately run a comparison between Azure, AWS and GCP let it be noted that any cloud platform facing this and making it to headlines is not good for the cloud industry over all.

The thing is: if cloud vendors struggle getting new machines, imagine your small company trying to order and get delivered new on-prem servers quickly.

I worked for a company that worked mostly on-prem until 1y ago and last time they had ordered machines availability from Dell was scarce with huge delays.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by nixgeek »

bradknowles wrote: post #93
websap wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Def not true with AWS, unless you reach a particular scale. Not for product market fit. My technology choices would be fully managed services so I could focus on my actual business.

Read the "Well Architected" paper. Go multi-region.

Unless eCF has made some major advancements in the last couple years, Amazon’s own retail business isn’t multi-region. So it’d be like the cobbler saying “Buy my shoes!” while wearing none, if AWS were to push everyone hard to have a multi-region strategy.

At least on AWS you typically can find capacity (outside of accelerators) by being flexible on instance types (C, M, R), instance sizes, and availability zones. Sounds like this region OP is in for Azure is constrained such that even this advice doesn’t work.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by panarky »

mhitza wrote: post #180
xwowsersx wrote: post #10

Oof, that sucks and I feel for you. That said... > setting up in a new region would be complicated for us. Sounds to me like you've got a few weeks to get this working. Deprioritize all other work, get everyone working on this little DevOps/Infra project. You should've been multi-region from the outset, if not multi-cloud. When using the public cloud, we do tend to take it all for granted and don't even think about t…

I take offense with you comment. It's not the first time I'm hearing about multi-region/multi-cloud in online tech forums, however reality doesn't match. I don't want to be snarky, but when large service providers like AWS have their own crossregion downtime because one snowflake of a service in us-east-1 is down, I kind of dismiss the virtue signaling of high resilient multi-(az/region/cloud) ever existing in practi…

> dismiss the virtue signaling of high resilient ...

So you're saying it's impossible to improve reliability from 97% to 99% because you can never make it to 100%.

Re: Ask HN: Azure has run out of compute – anyone else affected?

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Post by marcosdumay »

gumby wrote: post #184
astrostl wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Multi-cloud from the outset" is probably the single-worst generic cloud advice that I think anyone could be given. In professional cloud consulting the rule of thumb is to do one cloud with excellence until you even think about another one. And even that is really just kicking the conversational can, as both becoming excellent and actually needing multi-cloud combined is one-in-a-billion.

That pretty much binds your hands since in our experience the one provider who can do “one cloud with excellence” is AWS. (As an aside I also agree that multi cloud from the get go is a YAGNI violation. Just keep in the back of your mind “could we have an alternative to this?” when using your provider’s proprietary features.)

That generalizes to every kind of lock-in: have a viable escape plan, but only execute it if you need or it becomes cheap enough that it won't harm you.

Just having the plan is already expensive enough.

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