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Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#192

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You can use nicknames as tags, atleast that's what I do. Most of my actual bookmark management is actually done in Zotero though.

nicknames cannot be used as tags since it doesn't support auto complete/filter by tag etc. You should really check out FF tag system.Its really awesome.Vivaldi doesn't stand a chance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRIyAu79OrM

> nicknames cannot be used as tags since it doesn't support auto complete/filter by tag etc.

Well, Vivaldi does support autocompletion of nicknames. Just tried it with HN (save it as a bookmark and add hn as a nickname)

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#193
I drop links into a markdown file by topic, along with a short description about what makes the link interesting to me. It's more work than creating a bookmark, but I don't end up with thousands of bookmarks without sufficient context.

If you export the markdown to HTML, for instance with a static site creator, it's very easy to open many links by just middle-clicking them, or search the context with the browser's search function.

Might not be what you're looking for, but it has worked out better for me down the years than having an ever growing collection of bookmarks with limited searchability and indication of relevance.

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#195

I thought it was a commonly held thought that Google didn't want Chrome users using bookmarks because it directly competed with their search (and advertising).

I think that's venturing into tinfoil hat territory. More likely telemetry told them that some percentage > 50 always toggle the bookmark bar off and they decided to make it the default. It's still there on new tabs after all. Companies like Google are long term greedy, they don't make unpopular UX decisions for scraps.

It's true though. You see something similar with the address bar: Chrome's is pretty horrible for accessing history or bookmarks, it instead tries to push you to do a search. Firefox has much richer information here.

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

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post #98

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Vertical space is still at a premium because most laptops use the obnoxious 16:9 aspect ratio. That’s why I keep my tabs on the right in Vivaldi.

I've tried that, but you haven't lived until you've tried Tree Style Tabs in Firefox.

I like tree-style tabs, and I use it when working on projects, but I find that it is a long, long way from what it could be, which is probably a direct result of the lack of competition

the settings UI is absolutely awful;

depending on which appearance you choose, it either looks ugly or blurs together;

it frequently has visual glitches;

could certainly be more customisable appearance and shortcut-wise;

doesn’t allow you to have a title or marker as the top level tab;

as far as I can tell doesn’t let you save a session of tabs;

has an unpleasant glitch where if you drop a tab in the wrong place it’ll disappear behind the current window and never be reachable;

the new tab behaviour irritates me;

and probably a few more complaints that I’d have to actually open it up to remember

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#197

I thought it was a commonly held thought that Google didn't want Chrome users using bookmarks because it directly competed with their search (and advertising).

I definitely feel like autocompletion in the omnibar is getting worse and worse, especially when the URL i'm looking for is bookmarked. The "this is just to make me google it again" thought does regularly crosses my mind.

google makes a point of deleting your history after a certain amount of time and does not give any option to change it. I find this extremely irritating

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#198
post #109

My browser home page is a page of bookmarks I originally made in 1998 and it's still going strong: https://david.kitchen/bookmarks/ I update it occasionally (last updated the HTML to XHTML 1.0 in 2000, but last edited the bookmarks a month or so ago)... but these are my frequently used bookmarks. I also use Pinboard ( https://pinboard.in/ ) for the long tail of bookmarks where I can search the full text of the bookma…

I recommend the extension "Group Speed Dial" to manage this neatly. https://fastaddons.com/

Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?

#199
Because the effort to maintain a growing list of bookmarks organized is too high for most people. So most people don't use bookmarks, so browsers are trending towards putting less effort into a feature people don't use.

Sometimes when I'm investing effort in looking for URLs of one particular thing I create lists of links using markdown and hosted publicly on Gist.

Eg:

https://gist.github.com/PierBover/0ab4326cb80f47d3f95607d052...

https://gist.github.com/PierBover/cfad93ad4fb3e569ab360f0f32...

https://gist.github.com/PierBover/6eaa538f4ebfe6d56b070f9d92...

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