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Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by jdlshore »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #189
jdlshore wrote: post #188

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> I'm not particularly making an assertion about whether working two jobs is ethical, just that doing the minimum is. Sure, I'll agree with that, up to a point. And I think, for me, that point is "would you behave differently if your employer had full knowledge of your actions." Ultimately, people who work two simultaneous jobs are abusing the trust of their employers, and if it becomes commonplace, it's just going t…

They're going to do that anyway whether we preemptively placate them or not. The solution is solidarity and organizing, not trying to infer their invisible demands on how we allocate our time around the workload. And why would my employer ever have full knowledge of my actions during the workday? Even in the hypothetical it's extremely invasive. If I need to pray five times a day several of those are landing during t…

It sounds like you haven't been part of a healthy workplace environment, and have so much anger about employer/employee relationships that you're straw-manning my hypothetical. That's too bad. But healthy workplaces do exist, and they involve mutual trust. (Up to a point. I'm not advocating blind trust and obedience.) Workplaces where everyone thinks everyone else is out to get them are hell. Don't contribute to it... just get out and find an employer you can trust, if you can.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by winterplace »

im_busy wrote: post #26

I currently have 1 full time job, 1 full time contracting, and 4 clients that pay me a retainer for a set amount of hours they can use week to week. It's going fine; I measure that based on my performance reviews all being excellent, my clients all paying the bills on time, and all work is done in a timely fashion. I do individual contributor infrastructure engineering at the senior+ level. Managing the calendar is t…

That is impressive. Do you have an email address or a contact method?

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by winterplace »

froaway4job wrote: post #135
the_seer wrote: post #116

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Do you have an email interested individuals can contact you on?

For my own sake I'm probably going to be completely anon, but you should check out the following site for a community of overemployed folks: https://overemployed.com/

Could you make a protonmail address?

It is good to have a circle of non-public capable people.

Will be good if you can be contacted.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by winterplace »

froaway4job wrote: post #88
strikelaserclaw wrote: post #82

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jeez, where are you getting jobs where you can work like 2-3 hrs a day and get paid 250k + ? Are u a leetcode god or a 10x programmer?

Senior to Staff positions at medium to large private or mid cap public companies expect little from their engineers :). Definitely not 10x and I suck at leetcode style problems. I'm probably a 2xer who acts like a 1xer. That's the real secret. Don't overachieve.

Series D companies above 1B valuation?

How did you make it to senior staff without leetcode? How many years YOE to get there?

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by winterplace »

randomhodler84 wrote: post #108
froaway4job wrote: post #93

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I was going to spend some time justifying my rental portfolio but alas I fear it will fall on deaf ears. Thank you for your somewhat constructive criticism. I'm sorry to hear that you feel that way. Given your username, I assume you are just as worldly as I am. In that case, I hope your HODLing habits lead to success. Eventually, you will become the same "evil" that you despise... you will eventually become... me. HO…

Thank you! My post was overly emotional and it triggered me when I read you were landlording. Like — I have no issue with you drawing multiple wages, but then using that money to extort rent from working class folks just was a bridge too far for me. As a renter I have experienced some really dirty actions from landlords, and given the drop in housing inventory, landchadding just seems exploitative with no gain for so…

He could be a good guy who donates the money made from that.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by winterplace »

froaway4job wrote: post #89
it200219 wrote: post #78

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interested in knowing how do you manage your time at 4 FTE roles ? I also would like to understand the systems / machines that they provide

I purposely job hunt for low performing teams/companies who are willing to pay for experience. Also, managing my calendar religiously is a must.

Where do you look for them?

How many YOE did you have when you first started being overemployed? What do you see to know that they are low performing and willing to pay for experience?

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by winterplace »

ghaff wrote: post #32
hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #19

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> Their 9-5 jobs suffers If they do it this way, they are doing it wrong. At my current job I can squeeze all my daily tasks in maybe one hour (mind you, this is after 10 years of doing a very similar set of things). It becomes longer when a significant change comes or an emergency happens but after a few weeks it's all the same. I study new things and develop my competences during the spare hours but I can imagine I…

There's a huge difference between coasting a bit and using available time to learn, do side projects, read books, even earn a bit doing some freelance non-competitive work--and working two jobs where the expectation of each is that you're working full-time. (And, in all probability violating various confidentiality etc. agreements.)

What is the difference?

The 2nd one is the side project isnt it?

Why would they be violating confidentiality? They are not going to tell the 2nd company about their 1st company. Also not going to share trade secrets since there is no need to.

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by winterplace »

Enginerrrd wrote: post #20
pc86 wrote: post #11

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I take a lot of issue with you framing this as "cheating." How is it cheating? How do you know the 9-5 necessarily suffers?

I'm old enough and I have done this exact thing enough to know that of course it suffers. A lot more than you want to admit too. Even if you don't ever mix the 9-5 time with the freelance time, (Which FYI is nearly impossible in practice.) you just aren't going to be at your best when you show up the next day to work your 9-5 8-hour day after having worked a full day and moonlighted for another 4-6 hours afterward th…

Yea if the performance is under expectation then it is not good.

If the employee is meeting expectations or exceeding expectations then it is ok?

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by winterplace »

skeeter2020 wrote: post #18
pc86 wrote: post #11

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I take a lot of issue with you framing this as "cheating." How is it cheating? How do you know the 9-5 necessarily suffers?

because by definition you're being paid for your time. I've never seen a non-contract tech position scoped as "here's an exhaustive set of responsibilities; you'll be paid 40 hrs/week to accomplish them but if you finish early the time is yours". According to your profile you're a new EM; can you honestly say there's a point in your day when the job is done-done and you can jump over to your other job?

Then the people who coast should be fired?

The ones who only have 1 job but spend some hours at the company recreation room and less than 40 hours on work should also be fired?

Re: Ask HN: Who here is juggling two or more remote jobs? How is it working out?

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Post by winterplace »

overemployed wrote: post #12

New account not to dox myself here. I'm doing it. I very recently took on a second full time job. I work as a Release Engineer for both. It hasn't been too bad so far. The biggest thing is managing your calendars to avoid conflicts.

Do you have an email address or a contact method?

It can be a new email address.

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