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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by sofixa »

mstipetic wrote: post #157
mech422 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another vote for Obsidian here. Its the first 'note taking' system I actually _use_ (even evernote wasn't as frictionless for me). Not an issue for me, but others might be concerned about its (lack of??) mobile support. I do all my work on desktops and sync thru git, so its not been a problem for me.

I’ve stopped using it because I can’t figure out how to make a nice home page with links to various notes and important links, it just dumps me in the latest random note. Is there a way to organize that, like in notion?

If you use any of the daily notes plugin, you can tell it to always open with the note for today, which is based on a template and can contain anything you want. iIRC by default it just opens the last note you were in.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by kvark »

temp8964 wrote: post #164
DangerousPie wrote: post #30

Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

There are comments recommending popular apps like Notion, Joplin, Obsidian, etc. I find hard to trust those apps will last 10, 15, or 20 years. I have switched note-keeping apps a few times in the past and no longer want to do so. That's why I decide I will not use any of those apps. Now I use MediaWiki through docker (with Sqlite database) on my home server. It's lightening fast for my personal use, and comes with t…

The beauty of Obsidian (at least) is that it does not matter whether the company is still around. It’s your files in a standard Markdown format.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by 0ldskool »

prox wrote: post #184
dotBen wrote: post #165

I migrated from Evernote to Microsoft OneNote. If I was 10 years younger or still an engineer I would have experimented with a 'roll your own' FOSS option but these days I'm an exec and I just need my notes to be stable, dependable, easily accessible etc. OneNote is essentially free, it's Microsoft's gateway to get people to come back into their ecosystem and you obviously know it's going to be well maintained, high…

Joplin is a solid alternative for me. You can also spin your own cloud or just buy a bit of space.

For mobile users, Joplin does not support widgets and never will. Its written in react-native and that does not support widgets. They have an open issue and basically responded with will not implement or support. I'm someone who needs widgets for my notes...

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by quesera »

antiframe wrote: post #161
uhuhoo wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it about their license that bothers you? It seems pretty fair to me... Free for personal use, pay for commercial, unless you are a nonprofit or a single employee company. Did I miss something? (I assume you mean EULA: https://obsidian.md/eula )

I don't want to have to separate my notes between work and personal. Sometimes in my daily journal I will think about work things. That would requires me to pay $50 a year for an editor to edit Markdown files. That seems steep even if mostly I use it for personal use.

A solution springs to mind, but I fear it would be impolite to state it directly.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by bmarquez »

temp8964 wrote: post #164
DangerousPie wrote: post #30

Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

There are comments recommending popular apps like Notion, Joplin, Obsidian, etc. I find hard to trust those apps will last 10, 15, or 20 years. I have switched note-keeping apps a few times in the past and no longer want to do so. That's why I decide I will not use any of those apps. Now I use MediaWiki through docker (with Sqlite database) on my home server. It's lightening fast for my personal use, and comes with t…

I've previously bounced between different open-source notetaking apps but the great thing about any note format based on Markdown (Standard Notes/Obsidian/Zim/etc), is that it's pretty easy to move from one platform to another if they stop being maintained.

Although in the end I ended up with Microsoft OneNote (with Obsidian for special cases), Microsoft isn't going away and they don't have a habit of killing core products like Google does.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by 0ldskool »

hklgny wrote: post #156
mech422 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another vote for Obsidian here. Its the first 'note taking' system I actually _use_ (even evernote wasn't as frictionless for me). Not an issue for me, but others might be concerned about its (lack of??) mobile support. I do all my work on desktops and sync thru git, so its not been a problem for me.

Obsidian has a solid mobile app now

do they have widget support? Specifically a list of starred/favorite notes?

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by mech422 »

mstipetic wrote: post #157
mech422 wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another vote for Obsidian here. Its the first 'note taking' system I actually _use_ (even evernote wasn't as frictionless for me). Not an issue for me, but others might be concerned about its (lack of??) mobile support. I do all my work on desktops and sync thru git, so its not been a problem for me.

I’ve stopped using it because I can’t figure out how to make a nice home page with links to various notes and important links, it just dumps me in the latest random note. Is there a way to organize that, like in notion?

I actually sync my instances so when it does the git pull, it puts me in the last note I was working on, regardless of what machine it was.

I use the calendar, and tasks stuff to give me a daily/weekly view in the sidebar for quick nav. and a 'general' note for links to notes I want quick access to.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by lifeplusplus »

dehrmann wrote: post #190
causality0 wrote: post #81

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Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago That is the modern business model. First you build something so good it becomes indespensible then you squeeze money out of it until your customers hate you just enough to not stop using you.

The challenge is every PM at the company thinks they can see a step function increase in engagement, retention, etc. if they just add the right features.

This! Can't get that promotion until your feature that somehow increases some kpi somewhere in short term.. this why lot of sites go through complete redesign when everything is already working

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by 0ldskool »

nfriedly wrote: post #37

Personally, I'm using the next cloud notes app. It's somewhat limited - essentially just plain text with a bit of markdown support, but the upside is that my data is stored in plain text files that are easy to backup and/or export if I ever decide to switch to something else. I'm running it on an unRAID server with nightly backups, but you could just as easily run it from a raspberry pi. Before next cloud, I was usin…

I basically have the same setup, using nextcloud notes. The notes aren't in plaintext, they are in markdown. Joplin can use nextcloud has a sync backend. There are also other note taking apps that can use nextcloud has the sync backend but in the end I wasn't happy with anything. Going to test drive Obsidian and dendron.so to see how they go.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by gnuj3 »

mech422 wrote: post #150
sofixa wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obsidian. It's markdown based, so simple at the base, but you can go wild with plugins ( including latex, graph visualisations, dynamic queries across notes, etc.), and it supports metadata, tags, etc. if you want to. You can sync with anything supporting text files ( Git, Dropbox, Google Drive, etc) or pay a bit for their ens to end encrypted service that works great.

Another vote for Obsidian here. Its the first 'note taking' system I actually _use_ (even evernote wasn't as frictionless for me). Not an issue for me, but others might be concerned about its (lack of??) mobile support. I do all my work on desktops and sync thru git, so its not been a problem for me.

What do you mean by lack of mobile support? Mobile app had been working fine for me since its been released, at least for me. I only use it to access previously written stuff or quickly capture something to be properly edited later on my laptop though. So I’m not exactly power mobile user.
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