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Re: Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish you'd done much earlier?

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What questions do you ask around the audit log? We audit a lot of things but it'd be a good idea to improve that if we can. Thanks enterprise-y person. :)

Basically? who, what, when, were, why and how. AWS CloudTrail is far from perfect but it has been battle tested as much as any SaaS audit log out there. Who: userIdentity.arn What: requestParameters.*, responseElements.* When: eventTime Where: sourceIPAddress, sourceVpce, userAgent Why: userIdentity.issuer/rolesession How: eventName, eventSource Baller move is to include internal ops actions in your log. Main thing i…

I would agree, CloudTrail is a pretty good example. The who what where when why is a good starting point. We're building audit logs as a service and our event format looks similar: https://apptrail.com/docs/applications/guide/event-format

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Hey, thank you for this. Can I pick your brain about it sometime? I couldn't find contact info in your profile - my email is ege at pricetable dot io edit: why am I getting downvotes...

Thanks! My DM's are open, or paul at [my HN handle].com, happy to talk to anyone making this transition.

Does HN have DM's?? The client I use at least doesn't show them anywhere.

Re: Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish you'd done much earlier?

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There are thousands upon thousands of hosting companies out there, most of which are barely breaking even, and are sold often for not much money.

This. They were struggling to find enough customers to break even. I had the customers but lacked the hosting knowledge and technology.

Just to understand: did you buy any actual hardware? Or "hosting company" means services on top of another hosting company that actually has hardware somewhere?

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Guys, you learned nothing ! You are the top comment on HN, you should share the link to your project :)

Remember the ABCs A - Always B - Be C - Selling That is, seize the opportunities of presenting your work and your company.

I'll be that guy. Actually it's Always Be Closing.

Obligatory Glenngary Glen Ross scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7y6EOGY87U&t=104s

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> If you need more than two engineers + 2 assistants, you should have hired smarter engineers. Oh, I half thought you were serious until this point. I still don't get the joke though.

Well, I mean I don't want to judge all startups. In fact if you take any of this offhand advice as gospel, well I wouldn't. Maybe I should have scattered "probably" and "often" about the place. 1: ------------------------------------------------------------ When you read the book, ole Fred is not a fan of large engineering units. Forget two pizzas (Bezos is from New York, two pizzas for him is ~10 people). Fred's vie…

Can you think of any amazing software written by one person who was working for another person who owned the company that owned said software?

I sympathize with the argument that one engineer can be sufficient but am doubtful about them being an employee as opposed to founder.

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Creating an on-premise version of our product for enterprises (as opposed to a pure SaaS version) Turns out there is still a lot of money in selling technology to large enterprises that they can host and run themselves on an annual licensing model. We were initially afraid of the long and high-touch enterprise sales cycles, complex procurement processes and enterprise integration requirements (complex permissions, LD…

How do you deal with maintenence and stuff? Do you need on-site engineers? With SaaS you can just do it remotely but if it's on site you need to send someone over I guess

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"Commoditize your complement" I had hosting issues in many of my companies and consulting projects, running from "WTF is this AWS bill $10k???" to "WTF did our 10gbit/s download just kick Heroku offline?" But people can only appreciate the things I build for them if they are hosted well. So I took the obvious next step and purchased a small struggling hosting company. We then introduced nicer tooling that imitates th…

Great. If you don't mind, can you share your trade-offs and pain-points of managing own hosting? and How do you manage to get your service/apis compatible with forever(kinda) changing AWS/Heroku apis.

I never had the "hands off" hosting experience that cloud providers advertise in the first place. Before (with AWS and Heroku) if things went down, I was the person that had to investigate and escalate to the appropriate vendor's support. Now, I'm the person responsible for investigating and fixing things. For many small issues, it's easier to fix them than to get someone at AWS with the necessary clearance on the phone.

One big trade-off is that I only have one datacenter so in cloud lingo, I only offer one availability zone with offsite backups. But then again, when AWS us-east went offline, so went most companies, because the proudly advertised multi-AZ failover didn't work that well in practice.

As for the APIs, I just limit the subset of APIs that I offer. Since this is used only for my consulting clients, my cloud only needs to support those APIs that they require. In effect, that means CEPH+PostgreSQL do most of the heavy lifting.

I've seen Cloud APIs explode in funny ways when customers actually arrive with Petabyte-scale datasets. In that sense, my customers are pre-qualified because all of them have had horrible experiences with Cloud providers over-promising and under-delivering. So once they are on my platform, dissuading them from wanting more APIs is very easy. "Would you like to continue to use my cloud at the current price? Or would you like to pay 3x the monthly spend just to use the Amazon cloud and gain API call XY? And please remember the last time they crashed badly and you could not reach any Amazon support by phone. Didn't they even bill you for EC2 while it was unreachable?"

And if they insist, I can always point them towards the Open Source project that Amazon/Heroku use under the hood. But in my opinion, most Cloud APIs don't add business value anyway. "Keep it simple" always wins out in the long run.

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This. They were struggling to find enough customers to break even. I had the customers but lacked the hosting knowledge and technology.

Just to understand: did you buy any actual hardware? Or "hosting company" means services on top of another hosting company that actually has hardware somewhere?

Long-term rental for colocation cages in an existing datacenter + long-term leasing contracts for the hardware + long-term support contract with a guy that lives close to the datacenter and keeps a stack of HDDs in his basement

So in effect I provide cloud services and cloud APIs on top of physical bare-metal servers that are maintained and housed by someone else.

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Remember the ABCs A - Always B - Be C - Selling That is, seize the opportunities of presenting your work and your company.

I'll be that guy. Actually it's Always Be Closing. Obligatory Glenngary Glen Ross scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7y6EOGY87U&t=104s

Watch it from the beginning, its great

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To paraphrase my brilliant cofounder, mentor and tough sparring partner: "The biggest lie you techies tell to yourselves is 'Build it and they will come'. Nope. Nobody ever comes by. I've beaten competitors with the better product again and again. Know why? Because marketing builds growth, growth builds revenue and revenue enables hiring brilliant people to fix your product, all the while the brilliant product people…

"Build it and they come" works, for example Hotmail and Google did not invest into marketing initially. But it works in non saturated market with a few players.
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