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Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

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I'm not sure if we fit your description but our "core hours" are 10-16, which is a bit different from other companies in the industry: and there's a lot more focus on getting tasks done vs being in the office with your arse in the seat (though how much of that is COVID? unsure, but the company culture is affected a lot by how we worked during the pandemic as this is when most people got onboarded- we more than quadru…

6 hours for core hours? That’s practically no flexibility at all.

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

#192
post #49

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ADHD people: - loose track of things more than the typical person - get distracted by new things more than the average person - have significantly higher openness to experience - tend to forget more things - are more impulsive So it's basically having an extra management structure or labor that is willing to put in extra time to mitigate the issue that come up with this, and to harness the benefits of them too.

> an extra management structure Not necessarily - it could be as simple as a change to the existing structure that benefits everyone to some degree (or at least doesn’t harm others).

If the change of the management structure requires more active hours of management labor, for everyone or for people with ADHD, it's still more total work and labor which costs more money and is limited by hiring constraints.

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

#193

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No. ADHD criteria and low conscientiousness behaviors overlap. Conscientiousness tests combine effort and outcomes usually. Many ADHD criteria are about difficulty.

I don't understand. Is "difficulty" some axis that's independent of "effort" and "outcomes"? Is conscientiousness defined to be the result a person achieves on a particular test, and can you provide a link to that test? Do you often leave comments like "No. PCR-covid and pulse-oximiter-covid are different diseases. One of them involves having virus genomes in your body and the other one involves having low blood oxyg…

Difficulty and effort are independent. Some people try to do hard things. Some people don't try to do easy things. Outcomes depend on difficulty, effort, and other factors.

Talking about measuring conscientiousness means part of the Big 5 model usually. Did you have in mind a different system for assigning people conscientiousness percentiles?

Do you often say COVID-19 really does seem like the lowest x percent of the population by SpO2?

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

#195
I'll answer your question directly.

There's a big (one of biggest) travel e-commerce company that hires in the Netherlands. I wont fully endorse the company, but from what I can see, there are groups dedicated to appreciating neurodiversity (and others for lgbt stuff and the like).

You can try over there.

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

#196
post #43

I was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult in my thirties and I have been taking medication for the last two years. I am also in EU. I would recommend two things (YMMV). First, use ADHD to your advantage. People with ADHD have tendency to be inquisitive, but easily bored. Because of this I have become a jack of all trades. Although I have my specialty (ML), employers really appreciate that I also able to do Linux administ…

> First, use ADHD to your advantage. Agree with this 100%. While I've never been formally diagnosed (and have no intention to be), I definitely have some tendencies that align with people who have been formally diagnosed with ADHD. The way I see it, this is a part of me anyways, so I might as well lean into it and milk it for all it's worth, which has led to me being in a similar "jack-of-all-trades" position. If any…

> then move onto the next shiny thing that catches my eye.

This works as long as that next shiny thing is something that brings value/money or is at least compatible with your career goals. That's often the case in our field of work, but it's not a given.

I'm also a "jack of all trades" and it usually works out great for me, but I'm pretty sure that I was one non-lenient enough manager away from getting fired several times in my life. This wouldn't work so well if I wasn't working in a field that observes workers economy.

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

#197

I'm not diagnosed with ADHD myself, in fact today is my first day of ADHD eval by a doctor. What you write is exactly how experience work. One thing that came to mind is contract/freelance work. Go to a contracting agancy and tell them you want to work on 3-6 month contracts. I'm currently in the process of doing this. I hope few things come out of this. 1) my brain stays engaged 2) my happniess increases 3) my savin…

> 3) my savings & free time grow ( as contractors get paid a bit more ) and can afford more time off between projects

This is the part that didn't work so well in my experience. With each project I was at first in "working" mode, then in "time off" mode (which usually meant working on personal stuff for free), and then suddenly in "need to find a new paying project asap" panic mode when the savings were running out. With each next project my financial situation had to be worse in order to successfully trigger panic mode, so I quickly started to look for something longer-term instead.

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

#198
post #56

It’s worth everyone knowing that there is a high proportion of neurodiverse people in our industry, relative to other industries and the general population. The 2021 Stack Overflow Survey [0] puts ADHD at 8.51% (double the rate in the US [1]), and autism at 3.7% (about 1% globally [2]). The point here is that, you all already work with people who have ADHD or are autistic. If your company isn’t doing right to retain…

I would be cautious about what people say in the survey on Stack Overflow. How many of those who claim to have ADHD or Autism have an actual diagnosis of those from a professional?

You are putting way too much trust into "professionals" here. Adult ADHD was essentially not a thing people believed was real a few years ago. Where I live there was no reimbursable stimulants for anyone over 18 until 10 years ago.

Now that people are catching on to the fact they're not actually lazy but just have a much higher barrier to starting and maintaining focus on things they're not extremely passionate about some doctors handle 5-10 new patients a day.

ADHD is not rare. At all. The super strict guidelines exist because people are afraid of Ritalin and they're extra afraid of giving it to children, so double up on your "this is not actually a real thing" hysteria.

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

#199
post #154

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It's not the same substance. Desoxyn is pharmaceutical methamphetamine. Vyvanse is lisdexamphetamine, a slow release version of dexamphetamine. Don't be mislead by the name, they're quite different. And methamphetamine is very rarely prescribed, only when everything else fails. While Vyvanse is usually first line treatment.

Actually, for me Vyvanse wasn't even in the first three medications suggested to me to try first.

Depends, here in the UK it is, while for example Adderall is very expensive as it needs to be imported from the US.

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

#200
post #89
post #69

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Ah so I just have to concentrate harder! Geez why didn't anyone just tell me this, would have been a lot easier

But have you tried creating a list?! /s

Which list software/paper/pen should I use ?

(Semi-serious question even though /s because topic)

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