Yes I have definitely noticed the same sluggishness. Does anyone have any resources or recommendations for transitioning off of Gmail and onto another email provider?
Ask HN: Anyone else find the new Gmail interface sluggish?
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#192One setting I found that has made the new interface slightly more bearable is turning off "Hover actions" under the General tab. It gets rid of that awful box-shadow that makes scanning down the list difficult.
that helped, thank you
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#193I just checked uMatrix how many scripts are running. After blocking hangouts, plus, play, notifications and whatever "ogs" stands for it got a bit snappier, and it still works.
Seconding the other commenter-- I would love for you to elaborate on this.
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#194Set Gmail to default to basic HTML. You'll be happy you did. https://smallbusiness.chron.com/make-gmail-display-mail-basi...
Yes, I've switched to the HTML version permanently, and I hope others do the same. Maybe if Google sees enough people switching to HTML, they'll get an idea of how popular their new version is.
that will never happen. gmail has over a billion users. we are really the 0.001% who would do something like that.
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#195It seems like almost everything Google related is sluggish. The new Google AdSense, the new Google Analytics, the new Google DoubleClick for Publishers, and to a lesser extent, the new Google Maps. These are all products I use that perform worse now (on modern hardware) compared to a decade ago. I really don't understand how this happens. Does no one at Google notice some of these services literally taking 10 seconds…
They have invested so many billions in their pipeline and committed so much head space that it's incredibly difficult to change their tech stack to improve performance. Users suffer because of poor performance but at least management can brag about compliance, code reuse, being able to quickly push out production code, etc.
I would believe it's a tech stack limitation a bit more if every web app they've launched in the last 5 years wasn't built on a totally different JS/CSS stack. Several use Polymer, but all very different versions of it. And Polymer is objectively bad if you care about non-Chrome usability at all.
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#196I just checked uMatrix how many scripts are running. After blocking hangouts, plus, play, notifications and whatever "ogs" stands for it got a bit snappier, and it still works.
Can you provide a bit of detail on how you block them?
Uhm, well, its just the basic way one would use uMatrix so nothing special. It's an add-on that works by whitelisting instead of blacklisting, similar to NoScript.
In this case I had it set up to allow all subdomains of google, so I opened the panel and clicked to blacklist the subdomain that I didn't want.
EDIT: The only downside of this is that if I want to use Google Hangouts in the same browser, it is now blocked, so I have to manually unblock it. But I use Firefox as my main browser, yet reserve hangouts to Chromium anyway.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Classic: You get what you measure. But years ago the same thing happened to me at Apple. I was fixing bugs in every part of a major framework to help SnowLeopard ship only to get passed over for a minor promotion because I wasn't "critical on any one project". I thought it was especially ironic since SnowLeopard was supposed to be a stability/performance release only to get massively delayed by people "shipping" thin…
Maintenance is thankless work - it's that way in just about every industry around, short of total disaster no one is going to congratulate you for making something work the way it was supposed to work.
Personally I've had good reception of performance and security bug fixes at my current job. Even got a private bonus from CTO for one. (Small-Medium company)
But I can see how that'd be the exception.
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#198I just checked uMatrix how many scripts are running. After blocking hangouts, plus, play, notifications and whatever "ogs" stands for it got a bit snappier, and it still works.
Can you provide a bit of detail on how you block them?
I use uBlock Origin in advanced mode, which lets you do something similar.
Haven't used it extensively, but blocking the following domains sped things up a little:
- hangouts.google.com - plus.google.com - play.google.com
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#199Am a googler (hence throwaway account) & I can easily tell you why this shit keeps happening! Google featureless ZERO penalties for fucking shit up! Zero! Do you know what the people who wasted two years on Allo got after it was canned? Nothing! Some of them actually got promoted! Google GREATLY encourages "launches" - releasing something publicly. And keep in mind - no penalties if the shit is half baked, not workin…
I can understand these reasons, but come on, at least some of the execs must have noticed that the new Gmail is a total mess, I simply can't believe they're all clueless. This actually made me and people like me to migrate away from Gmail. Do they really want to loose the competitive advantage they used to have?
The execs probably know but are also victims of the same perverse incentives.
It's not their fault it's worse, they did an excellent job of launching the update!
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
The N in FAANG stands for Netflix, because people needed an N and FAAG would be awkward.
I've always wondered, why isn't Microsoft included in this? FAMANG maybe?
French uses GAFAM: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAFAM (and leaves out Netflix). Funnily enough it used to be GAFA, but people eventually added Microsoft.