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Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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He did not, and if you follow the actual facts and read the internal communications you find out he lied https://www.techdirt.com/2025/01/16/rogan-misses-the-mark-ho...

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I'm sorry I don't understand the Twitter connection here

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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One successful version of what you're asking about seems to be the Vermont based Front Porch Forum. They have gotten some press in the last year and there was this thread about them on hackernews a while back : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41208506 Whether they'd be receptive to share their secret sauce and let a thousand Front Porches bloom is another question though, guess you could ask them! :)

I came here to say the same. Having recently moved to VT, FPF has been a real eye opener in terms of civil, useful local discourse. I don't think it's in the DNA of people in Vermont since the local subreddits for VT and communities are just as weird as they are other places I've looked at.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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The first thing that comes to mind for me is https://nextdoor.com/ which is very much about community organizing but it has an aura of "people spreading rumors about bicycle thefts at the movie theater downtown (why don't they call the cops?)", the woman who radiates creepy signs of precarity (is cleaning up and looking for the phone number of the people who are suspected to run an illegal landfill) and then posts sc…

I wonder if a subreddit would work? Nextdoor dot com is actually even more toxic than a lot of Facebook is and I would avoid at all costs.

I have found that Nextdoor isn't toxic, your neighbors are

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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I wonder if a subreddit would work? Nextdoor dot com is actually even more toxic than a lot of Facebook is and I would avoid at all costs.

I have found that Nextdoor isn't toxic, your neighbors are

Nah, most of my neighbors are nice people who I talk with in person.

So what happens on Nextdoor is that there's sort of a vicious cycle where normal people show up, get grossed out by the toxic ones and leave.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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He did not, and if you follow the actual facts and read the internal communications you find out he lied https://www.techdirt.com/2025/01/16/rogan-misses-the-mark-ho...

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Everything about the "twitter files" was trumped up nonsense with cherry picked quotes used to misrepresent, all orchestrated by bad faith actors/liars

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Facebook is where his community is, and it's good enough for them. Why would anyone move? What possible hope does he have of overcoming the network effect and convincing people to move to something they don't know? (And is most likely - for their use case - a worse experience)

Everyone agrees this is an uphill battle. What I'm saying is that's a boring reason not to do something you believe in.

It’s a Quixotic quest. Moving an online community off Facebook isn’t changing the world for the better or worse. It’s inconsequential unless you build an objectively better community. Just switching from Coke to Pepsi isn’t a wasted effort. Focus on zero to one, not zero to another version of zero.

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Everything you said here is false

No, it is true and has been covered in all major newspapers many times over. The Hunter Biden laptop story was censored due to warnings from the FBI, and Zuckerberg has repeatedly said that Facebook was pressured by the Biden administration to censor Covid-19-related content.

Both of those claims are false, and Facebook's own internal communications showed that they did not censor any covid-related content. SCOTUS ruled that the govt asked them to filter out misinformation without putting any undue pressure on them, and Facebook declined to do so

I already posted the link refuting this nonsense with sources

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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> If no one tried to make the world a better place, the world would never get better. This is kind of a cost-benefit issue though. The benefits of having a local community outweigh the negatives of the platform having its own issues. If your issues on the platform cause you to ditch it, which ruins your community, than what have you actually done? I believe when it comes to anything that is not-for-profit, that the p…

you're arguing local, short term benefits with global long term damage. Very near sighted, but an actual problem government, good governance, has struggled with absolutely. Part of the techno fascism is emerging because people are entirely easily manipulated with todays egg prices and not tomorrows suffering of human rights.

> techno fascism

I keep hearing this. What does this mean?

My guess would be "a system in which big technology firms can effectively censor speech with coordination from the state". But I think those that use it mean something else.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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> Everyone agrees this is an uphill battle No, most people don't care about having this battle - that's the point. If there's no demonstrable reason to leave (e.g. "former president got banned from major platform, so go to new platform") then the - valid, if personally boring to you - point is: how will you persuade people to leave it?

Good question, let's try to answer it. Suppose OP believes they have a serviceable replacement in place. What arguments could they use to convince their communities to switch to it? Here's some ideas: - No ads. - Free, even for business-use. - No algorithm interfering with visibility. - It's usable by community members who do not have a Facebook account, for whatever reason. - Allows for more free-form content. - Mor…

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