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Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

#181

Reddit does two things really: 1. Link Discovery 2. Discussion There are a few options for Link Discovery. I have a bunch of fora and sites hooked up to an rss reader (the old reader, since google shutdown reader) which does pretty well (although I'd like it to do a bit more). The link discovery thing is like the equivalent of having channels on your TV. You can stream any program (website) of a huge number but a cha…

I know Reddit search isn't great, but the ability to search at all is useful. Compared to e.g. Discord where threading is weak at best and searching is borderline useless because it's a chatroom, not a forum.

Reddit is a low-effort replacement for traditional forums, solving several problems of traditional forums:

1. One account for all communities. Nobody wants to make 100 accounts, whereas it's really easy to just click "join" and start participating in a new subreddit.

2. Consistent, uniform, familiar interface with Markdown for text. The old PHPBB etc. forums all had different layouts and slightly incompatible markup. And Discourse is just weird.

3. Easy to stay "casually engaged" with the community because of the customized per-user front page and the ability to group communities together with multireddits. Whereas with individual forums, you need to get email notifications or manually check several different sites to stay connected, which is much higher-effort. Also, it's easy to passively follow a low-population subreddit in the hope that it gains more users, while you're much less likely to make a new account on a forum that seems quiet. This helps keep the appearance of a high active population in niche communities, because people are less likely to forget about the community and can easily drop in and out.

4. Easy discovery of new communities and being a name brand makes it easy to attract users: people just assume a subreddit for X exists. The alternative is that they'd have to hunt around for a forum that will probably be low-population anyway.

5. Upvoting and downvoting helps the community moderate spam and bad actors. It also creates incentives to post content, in the hope that you get upvotes. Yes, there are problems with the system, but I think "the market has spoken" to some extent on this: the individual enjoyment of voting outweighs the systemic incentive problems associated with it.

It's easy to say that Reddit is "just" the two things that you mentioned, but that to me is reductionist to the point where it obfuscates why people prefer Reddit for discussion compared to other options.

Note that Discord has many of the same advantages over its alternatives, and I think similar points are relevant for both platforms.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

#182

The Fediverse/ActivityPub world has a few options: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/delightful-fediverse-apps#use... Lemmy is the best-known in that list, but Kbin and lotide both look pretty promising, too - making my decision of which to spin up as a personal instance much more challenging :)

Kbin is very close to the Reddit UI and Lemmy is nice as well. I've used both since last week and user engagement on both is through the roof.

I'd encourage anyone to at least check them out.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

#183
post #99

I see reddit less as a website and more as a collection of communities. Each community has its own set of reasons for hosting itself on reddit vs other locations. Therefore I would predict that in the absence of reddit, not every community would move to the same place. I also noticed that in recent years many subreddits have increasingly been taken over by memes and other low quality posts and so users looking for mo…

> Each community has its own set of reasons for hosting itself on reddit vs other locations. I don't think much thought goes into hosting on reddit or elsewhere. The people who like reddit, setup on reddit, the people who like Discord setup on Discord. In the absence of reddit, I have no clue where many would go, there's no obvious place I would go.

There's a few bits of thought to consider

- I (and/or my community) wants/doesn't mind psuedo-anonymity.

- I want a community that can quickly grow, not bound by region

- It should be easy to share links

- It should be easy to setup a longer form discussion

Discord for example would probably only satisfy 2/4 conditions.

But yes, there is no one glove fit all replacement as of now. If only because most new alternatives can't satisfy item #2 without some major money being put into advertisement.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

#184

4chan? It doesn't touch the scale and breadth of Reddit and I was always a little uncomfortable the handful of times I visited. Maybe because of no-rules /b/ but there are definitely some wholesome boards out there.

Any specific boards you would recommend on 4chan? Are there any other image boards worth using with reasonable discussions?

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

#185

I see reddit less as a website and more as a collection of communities. Each community has its own set of reasons for hosting itself on reddit vs other locations. Therefore I would predict that in the absence of reddit, not every community would move to the same place. I also noticed that in recent years many subreddits have increasingly been taken over by memes and other low quality posts and so users looking for mo…

I think a diffusion of communities to better forum software would be the best replacement for Reddit.

Why should your posts on r/knitting and r/samurai be linked together in the same account? How often are people seeing the same person across Reddit communities and it ends up being helpful?

The orangered inbox and tracking of karma on Reddit provide some encouragement to use a single site for this all, but can we solve that in diffuse communities? Is karma actually a benefit to users, or should it be hidden anyways?

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

#187
If we go to yet another corporate/tech bros entity, we're stupid.

Let's build our communities right this time and select something open-source, and federated so we don't end up in the same place in another 10 years.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

#188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slashdot is really more like HN's predecessor. Mostly tech news focused. It faded in popularity after Digg became a thing and allowed all sorts of topics.

It was around long after Digg became a thing. It's downfall was being bought by Dice media.

Slashdot was rocking in the late 90s when Digg didn't even exist. I started reading it when it was published by Rob Malda as his personal blog on his own server in his own dorm room. Along with Usenet, webrings, blogs, the original BoingBoing and the Illiad strips at userfriendly.org (dead, search for archived pages on archive.org) it is among the places of yesterday's Internet that I miss the most.

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

#189
post #164

Somewhat related, but I'd love for Apolloapp to break free from the Reddit API and simply become its own thing. It's backed by, depending on how you measure things, probably almost 50% of the Reddit community as it is. With some VC backing, or simply just crowdfunding to start things off, and continuous support from the subreddits that have gone dark, it could very well become a thing.

VC funding is primary reason that reddit reached the current situation. Another VC funded alternative will follow the same death spiral.

Link aggregators/social networks cannot generate VC expected returns without dying in the process.

This death cycle of social networks has repeated itself in silicon valley for decades.

At this point doing VC investment into social networks is like a game of hot potato. Who gets to exit first before the social network self destructs

Re: Ask HN: Alternatives to Reddit

#190

How about we take this opportunity to go back to the old internet to a time where real free speech ruled. Remember how reddit started off, where ANYTHING went no matter what (as long as it was legal)? Do people have the courage for that anymore? I certainly do, and I'd love to hear from those who disagree in complete free speech for the next Reddit.

It's important, but so is community building. Most communities function best when there's some degree of moderation. For example, people would prefer that the speech in their bird watching community is limited and trolls are kept out. Putting up with abrasive behavior in your community isn't brave, it's just masochistic.

It is true that some communities on Reddit weren't possible because they were not permitted to allow some of the content they were allowing.

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