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Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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Post by SauciestGNU »

sicp-enjoyer wrote: post #155
edgyquant wrote: post #151

I was hired as the engineering lead earlier this year at a company. It was packed full of “senior” engineers who wrote nested loops, each screen was a monolithic program with no abstractions etc. as I let them go we hired two more (we have a consultant that hired me and has been interviewing them) who were the exact same. Senior engineer, 15 years experience, etc. Yes all of them appear to work a couple hours of day…

> who wrote nested loops What is this supposed to be the connotation here?

This suggests runtime complexity will be O(n^2), which is rarely an optimal solution to a problem.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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Post by kube-system »

pridkett wrote: post #71
kube-system wrote: post #3

About 5 years ago at a previous company we had someone who interviewed well, and then the person who showed up was totally not the same quality person we had talked to previously. I guess the placement strategy at some low quality placement agencies is to just put someone good on the interview and hope the hiring company doesn't notice. I haven't seen it recently, but I am now in a position where we have good recruit…

I had this happen to me at a former large employer. I insisted on removing the agency from our list of approved agencies and was told that if we did that to every agency that did that sort of fraud then we’d have no agencies in our budget range.

In our case, management was quite unhappy, and I believe legal got involved. As you say, budget certainly has a role in determining the cross section of applicants you get, so… that’s just one more reason they’re my former employer.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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Post by pmccarren »

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We enable companies to asynchronously collect a short series of video responses from an applicant either at application time or later in the process.

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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Post by wyclif »

foomatic wrote: post #158
mistrial9 wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a magazine cover from the 90s really stands out in my mind (I was a professional C++ coder at the time). It was about some latest-thing code team management and the cover illustration was hand-drawn, of seven gray-beard guys, looking somewhat sagacious with an aura of wisdom and insight, all gathered in a semi-circle around a single whiteboard (like an easle) solving some serious, high skill problem. Anyone with trai…

Sorry what?

I think what he's trying to say is that ageism is real today, but things didn't used to be that way.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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Post by ghoward »

foomatic wrote: post #156
ghoward wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Holy cow, you can't get a job? What?! That makes me feel better about not being able to.

I don't feel better. What hope is there for me then!? Fuck-em and their stupid snobby jobs anyway.

I'm sorry.

There's no hope for me either; I'm not a "good cultural fit" most of the time.

I agree with your last sentence, although I would word it a little differently. :)

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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Post by irvingprime »

ghoward wrote: post #83
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know. It was a joke. I'm old, and have seen plenty of rejection, even though I'm "the real deal." But that kind of behavior has been used as an excuse for ignoring me. The icing on the cake, was when I was told that "I probably faked" my portfolio. At that point, I realized that I am radioactive, and might as well just give up.

Holy cow, you can't get a job? What?! That makes me feel better about not being able to.

I have been in the software industry, mostly writing code, for longer than some of the people interviewing me have been alive. It took me about a year of hunting to find my current job. I rejected a couple of offers. I walked away from a couple companies with too many red flags. And I got rejected over and over and over again.

It's just the way things are. Shrug it off. Don't take it personally. Move on.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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Post by irvingprime »

kube-system wrote: post #24
paxys wrote: post #7

This is exactly why the technical interview process is what it is. No point wasting time asking about backgrounds and describing past projects (all of it can be easily faked). Make them write code in front of you live as part of the screening round.

I don't like making people write code live. Some really good coders just don't work well with people looking over their shoulder. I prefer giving people a take-home with an original problem to solve. Then, follow that up with a live call where you ask them some questions about it.

Personally, when a company asks me to do a take home, I say no.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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Post by [deleted] »

erdos4d wrote: post #59

This sounds like what I wanted to do once I realized how insanely easy remote work was. I do my wife's code for her dev job and it honestly works out to like 2 hours a week for me. She spends maybe 10 hours in meetings, so it totally makes sense to put 3 or 4 front people in positions to handle the meetings and just funnel the work back to me. Sounds like they are doing a bait and switch strategy though. You should j…

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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Post by shostack »

__d wrote: post #114

Early 2010's, Wall St software tech vendor: I had a candidate show up for an interview, in person, go through the preliminaries and then sit down in a meeting room for the detailed questions. As we got into it, the candidate often asked me to repeat the question. I was happy to do so, but after a few times, I was already taking care to speak slowly and clearly, and it was still happening a lot. Then I noticed a quiet…

Or getting questions to secure placement for future candidates.
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