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Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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I've been running Ubuntu on an LG Gram 17. Huge screen (true 17"), 18 hour battery and weighs Les than 4 lbs. It also has a metal chassis. Only device that doesn't work is the fingerprint reader.

I've got a LG Gram 16" running with Fedora. Loving it.

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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Asus TUF Dash Gaming 15 user here: I cannot recommend it enough. - Intel i7 H series processor (best mobile Intel chips) - Upgradeable RAM (currently at 24GB) - Intel Wifi 6 - Nvidia RTX 3060 - FullHD Screen with 144Hz - Comfortable keyboard with backlight - Two M.2 slots, laptop came with 500GB but added an extra 2TB. - Good connecticity: HDMI, Ethernet, 3 full-size USBA 3.1 ports, 1 Thunderbolt port. - Laptop runs…

That 1080p screen would be hard to get used to after working on crisp MBP screens. Especially when staring at text all day.

The rest of the laptop does look great for the price.

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Asus TUF Dash Gaming 15 user here: I cannot recommend it enough. - Intel i7 H series processor (best mobile Intel chips) - Upgradeable RAM (currently at 24GB) - Intel Wifi 6 - Nvidia RTX 3060 - FullHD Screen with 144Hz - Comfortable keyboard with backlight - Two M.2 slots, laptop came with 500GB but added an extra 2TB. - Good connecticity: HDMI, Ethernet, 3 full-size USBA 3.1 ports, 1 Thunderbolt port. - Laptop runs…

Looks good but the deal breaker here is the screen. 1920x1080 is just not enough these days.

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A few years ago I would have said ThinkPads but I think there are better options available now. At the end of last year I wanted to replace my T470, and wanted to upgrade to something with a more powerful (not U-series) CPU. The ThinkPad option that fitted my requirements was on back order for months, so I looked around... The ASUS ROG line of gaming laptops had exactly what I wanted, although they look a bit garish,…

The one with the LEDs on the lid? Do those work on Linux?

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Just some general advice: > https://kfocus.org/order/order-m2.html NVIDIA gets really old, really fast. My personal laptop has an NVIDIA GPU and AMD iGPU, my desktop is AMD. For my laptop, a zen2 build of the kernel nets me about 15% more battery life and a snappier system. Unfortunately NVIDIA makes installing that kernel tedious, so I just run the regular kernel. I also have to install the proprietary drivers becau…

I'm going to hard second this. The ease and stability I gained from switching off the Nvidia closed source drivers to the open source AMD drivers has been nothing short of stellar.

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Asus TUF Dash Gaming 15 user here: I cannot recommend it enough. - Intel i7 H series processor (best mobile Intel chips) - Upgradeable RAM (currently at 24GB) - Intel Wifi 6 - Nvidia RTX 3060 - FullHD Screen with 144Hz - Comfortable keyboard with backlight - Two M.2 slots, laptop came with 500GB but added an extra 2TB. - Good connecticity: HDMI, Ethernet, 3 full-size USBA 3.1 ports, 1 Thunderbolt port. - Laptop runs…

Looks good but the deal breaker here is the screen. 1920x1080 is just not enough these days.

I won’t buy a laptop without 16:10 aspect ratio now.

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> I looked into the Framework laptops and so far it looks like they are still a bit beta. I'm not sure that's fair, (and it's pedantically wrong - they're in production - but I know what you mean) the hardware is the nicest I've seen besides Macbooks (I agree with you about macOS, but I do like the hardware, keen for Asahi one day but that is very much beta ( alpha actually I think)) and Linux is Linux? It works fine…

I use a Framework and it's been fantastic. Even the fingerprint works "out of the box" (in quotes because in Arch Linux nothing is really out of the box... I just had to install the right package). The only particularly disappointing thing is that the battery drains mega fast while suspended. This is something I might be able to tinker away, of course. And for what it's worth, non-functional suspend is basically par…

The new suspend mechanism is s0ix and it works quite well. My xps13 9310 (32gb version with the jank AX500) will even get to opportunistic s0ix with a recent 5.17 kernel.

When I originally setup this laptop, I found that if I left the intel raid storage crap enabled, the mvd module would prevent s0ix/suspend. Switching to AHCI in the bios resolved this.

https://01.org/blogs/qwang59/2018/how-achieve-s0ix-states-li...

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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I have several different laptops. Current main (the unit I'm typing this on) is Linux Mint 20.2 based, AMD Zen2 8c/16t, 64GB ram, 3TB NVME, Renior (AMD) and 1660Ti (NVidia) based. HP Omen 15 2020 edition.

I get about 3-4 hours of battery life (meh), with iGPU (AMD). Very light. Good keyboard, and trackpad. Everything works under linux, though sometimes the BT vanishes (I think I need to reseat that, but I was lazy and installed a $10 USB BT5.1 adapter). I do heavy development/builds/testing on it.

I run windows in a kvm instance window if I need it (less than once per quarter at this point). Came w/o OS. Bought it on Amazon late 2020 for about $1850 or so.

The laptop it replaced (though still alive) is a Sager 4c/8t Intel with GTX 1060 ish dGPU, Intel iGPU, 64 GB ram, and 1.5 TB SSD. Very capable machine, though battery life is abysmal. Maybe an hour. Its my current living room machine. Came pre-installed with Windows, but I installed 2 SSDs, and bumped the memory from 16GB to 64GB. Reworked the boot and virtualized windows (windows should never touch physin government's Federal Ministry of Education and Research.cal hardware). Bought in 2018 for about $2200. It is heavy, bulky, good workhorse, but older Intel CPU.

I also have a Sager I bought in 2010. Still works, 16GB ram, 4c/8t, 500GB SSD, GTX 560m graphics. Its my basement lab machine.

All 3 run Linux Mint 20.2. All function well (even the old machine). I expect I won't need to replace the new machine for quite some time.

That said, work laptop is finally a Mac, having been stuck on horrible Windows machines from Dell. Had many driver/OS problems with windows, machines crashed regularly. BSOD and others.

Newer M1 Pro now. Far more stable than windows, almost ... almost as good a UX as linux. CPUs are fast, though even with Homebrew, I can't build everything. This one ran the company about $3500 or so.

YMMV, but the HP Omen series is nice.

Re: Ask HN: What’s a good laptop for software development at around $2k?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not OP, but MacOS has very different ergonomics than Linux. My latest frustration on MacOS is switching between desktops/workspaces quickly. In any Linux distro, I can use both alt-tab and desktops to manage windows and switch instantly between programs. On MacOS, even when I disable animations using accessibility settings ("Reduce Motion"), switching workspaces comes with a delay during which the workspace appears s…

Yabai + SKHD will totally change your workflow for the better. Sometimes I forget most people don't have it set up by default so I get confused when I read comments like these. Tiling is snappy, workspace switching is instant. And I'm on a pre-m1 machine with 16GB RAM.

It's this kind of response that motivates me to post on HN about topics like this! I use Rectangle[0] for tiling, and I'm quite happy with it, but have not explored SKHD yet. Will give it a try now, thank you!

[0]: https://rectangleapp.com/

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