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Re: Ask HN: Why should I trust password managers?

#181

Something I've not seen come up yet: a password manager that's integrated with your browser is a good defence against phishing. Because it'll only offer passwords for sites that match the entry, defaulting (most often) to being the same domain, if you come across a phish then it won't offer the site at all. This is fairly similar to the "trust on first use" that SSH gives you, which some folk were wishing might have…

browserpass for the pass password manager does this

Re: Ask HN: Why should I trust password managers?

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https://www.passwordstore.org/ gpg "make-key" mkdir -p ~/.passwordstore/foo/bar echo "hunter2\nusername: hunter@hunter.com\n" \ | gpg "sign" > ~/.passwordstore/foo/bar/entry.gpg gpg "decrypt" ~/.passwordstore/foo/bar/entry.gpg tree ~/.passwordstore/ -- Basically, "passwordstore" is pretty trustworthy, open source, reasonably inspectable, and kindof automates the above steps in a decent CLI (and has a nice git integra…

Doesn't that 'echo' command go straight to the command history? It would reside in ~/.bash_history unencrypted until I type 2000 other commands.

I typically use the generate pass command to generate a new password - that isnt in history

Re: Ask HN: Why should I trust password managers?

#183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't that 'echo' command go straight to the command history? It would reside in ~/.bash_history unencrypted until I type 2000 other commands.

I just see asterisks?

Is that you, Cthon98?

Re: Ask HN: Why should I trust password managers?

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post #31

https://www.passwordstore.org/

This is the only one I use. I've used it for like 5 years and have hundreds of passwords stored. Everything is offline and encrypted with GPG along with being command line driven. It's the ultimate tool for someone who primarily uses a workstation or laptop.

browserpass is the killer addon for pass - just calling it out

Re: Ask HN: Why should I trust password managers?

#185
There are offline capable ones that basically protect your passwords via an encrypted file you know the password for, I've seen this for Android and Desktop, not sure about iOS but I would be surprised if there wasn't. There's open source ones like BitWarden as well which I use. You can quite literally fully manage your password manager yourself. Then you have Firefox's rolled out instance, where if you forget your password, the moment you reset it, you lose all the saved passwords. They can't recover it because it is encrypted with your password.

Re: Ask HN: Why should I trust password managers?

#188

Something I've not seen come up yet: a password manager that's integrated with your browser is a good defence against phishing. Because it'll only offer passwords for sites that match the entry, defaulting (most often) to being the same domain, if you come across a phish then it won't offer the site at all. This is fairly similar to the "trust on first use" that SSH gives you, which some folk were wishing might have…

> which some folk were wishing might have existed for SSL certificates the other day

Isn't this basically what HSTS + cert pinning does?

Re: Ask HN: Why should I trust password managers?

#189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> as long as your master password stays secure (aka is not "hunter3") You mean, the master password that many people reuse across sites and has been leaked into the darknet by breaches of other sites? Or if not leaked directly, at least some entropy about it probably has been. I know these services don’t store the password in plain text, but it’s still stored in reversible format. That’s a juicy target.

What sources do you have that indicate master pws in the pw manager context are getting leaked or reused?

you don't really need a 'source' for that do you? - it's common knowledge that people reuse passwords across sites. It's not best practice for sure, but plenty of people do it. If some low quality site leaks your email and password and if you were dumb enough to use that as your master password for your password manage, you are at more risk than if the bad actor didn't have that information.

Re: Ask HN: Why should I trust password managers?

#190

It sounds like to me that there are three types of people: * Layman who reuses passwords unless a techie friend convinces them to use a PW manager. * HN user who either uses a SAAS password manager or sets up their own system to solve the issue of syncing a password store across devices. * Those who actually have state level secrets or living under an oppressive regime and thereby don't trust even the networks they c…

I sort of fall into the second category, except I don't sync passwords across devices or even store them at all. I generate them on the fly with [1]. [1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hashpass/gkmegkoip...

How does this work with sites that have absurdly strict password requirements? i.e. 8-16 characters, 3+ letters (1+ of which is upper case), 2+ numbers, 1+ special characters (from their curated list only!) I've seen a few financial related sites have requirements like these, and with a typical password generator I can just click 'generate' until one pops out that meets the reqs, and save it.
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