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Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

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Post by throwaway6532 »

hogrider wrote: post #131

I feel pretty much everywhere with permanent WFH is ok for neurodivergent folk. I'm in the spectrum and I know this setup is so much better for me.

As an ADHDer who has been working all remote for the last 6 months after changing jobs I found it has been an absolutely anxiety inducing nightmare for me as I'm expected to pair program all the time but I'm hopeless at co-ordinating work with my team mates and my mind can just never relax as a result. I'm putting in my notice soon and returning to an office.

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

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Post by pdrbrtt »

thebigspacefuck wrote: post #114
pdrbrtt wrote: post #78

Hello There! Former ADHD bro here. I was diagnosed with ADHD 10 months ago. At that time my life was a BIG BLOB of MESS and CHAOS. I started attending therapy sessions with a really good Therapist once a week since then. After 6 months, I had sense of every way ADHD was affecting my life, but couldn't figure out how to overcome the symptoms by myself. My therapist recommended a psychiatrist, which prescribed Vyvanse…

Is your vyvanse like $300 a month? I was taking it and it helped with a lot of things but I stopped because it was so expensive. Therapy was expensive too

I live in Brazil, therapy and meds here are pretty expensive. I usually spend a whole Brazilian minimum wage (roughly aroung us$200 - us$300) on therapy and Vyvanse per month. Wage gap here is pretty big so as I work in the marketing/tech industry I can afford to do so as dealing with my ADHD is my priority now. I receive around 7x our country's minimum wage per month as a parameter.

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

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Post by Ancapistani »

novok wrote: post #49
newaccount74 wrote: post #42

I wonder why ADHD gets singled out so much. If I look at the suggestions that would help people with ADHD, then I see suggestions that would help lots of people. Eg. not being reprimanded for being late when it has no consequences would help everyone. Good calendar software also helps everyone. There are lots of people who are struggling with the demands of the workplace -- in fact, I'm not sure I know anyone who doe…

ADHD people: - loose track of things more than the typical person - get distracted by new things more than the average person - have significantly higher openness to experience - tend to forget more things - are more impulsive So it's basically having an extra management structure or labor that is willing to put in extra time to mitigate the issue that come up with this, and to harness the benefits of them too.

> an extra management structure

Not necessarily - it could be as simple as a change to the existing structure that benefits everyone to some degree (or at least doesn’t harm others).

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

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Post by pseudalopex »

anonymoushn wrote: post #149
alasdair_ wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ADHD isn't a discrete trait, it simply means that "you are in the lower x percentile of the population in the ability to concentrate". This is an oversimplification to the point of being misleading. Scott links to several sources to support his claims and most of them are quite clear that ADHD is a whole bunch of symptoms, a lack of concentration being just one of them. For example: “DSM-IV field trials used a C-GA…

I think this is a problem with GP's comment, not with the original SSC article. It really does seem like ADHD is just "lowest x percent of the population by conscientiousness" which isn't exactly what GP wrote, and a bunch of people replied to GP explaining the differences between conscientiousness and what he wrote.

No. ADHD criteria and low conscientiousness behaviors overlap. Conscientiousness tests combine effort and outcomes usually. Many ADHD criteria are about difficulty.

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

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Post by pseudalopex »

halkony wrote: post #115
thebigspacefuck wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is your vyvanse like $300 a month? I was taking it and it helped with a lot of things but I stopped because it was so expensive. Therapy was expensive too

There's no generic alternative for Vyvanse, so w/o insurance it's going to be costly. I have ADHD. I've tried both Adderall and Vyvanse, and IMO Vyvanse is the much cleaner feeling drug. Kinda glad the price point kept me out of it because it compelled me to find strategies that dont involve meds.

Vyvanse is an abuse resistant form of dextroamphetamine basically. Generic dextroamphetamine is an alternative if it's legal in your country. Adderall is a combination of dextroamphetamine and levoamphetamine.

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

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Post by pseudalopex »

gyulai wrote: post #107
pseudalopex wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ADHD brains are physically different. You can see it with MRI. I suspect ADHD hunter gatherers hated weaving.

I wonder how robust those findings actually are, especially for high-functioning persons in the ADHD spectrum where the symptoms are not clinically debilitating. I'm thinking now of how f-MRI is notoriously difficult to get right in methodological terms [1] while at the same time providing an all-to-convenient path for psychologists wanting to add credibility to their claims by tying them into physiological manifesta…

The problem with FMRI is fishing for correlations in an ocean of variables without adjusting the calculations. Structural MRI finding physical differences where older evidence predicted is very different.

Organisms are analog. Why would you expect marginally symptomatic brains to be clearly distinct?

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

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Post by anonymoushn »

pseudalopex wrote: post #184
anonymoushn wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is a problem with GP's comment, not with the original SSC article. It really does seem like ADHD is just "lowest x percent of the population by conscientiousness" which isn't exactly what GP wrote, and a bunch of people replied to GP explaining the differences between conscientiousness and what he wrote.

No. ADHD criteria and low conscientiousness behaviors overlap. Conscientiousness tests combine effort and outcomes usually. Many ADHD criteria are about difficulty.

I don't understand. Is "difficulty" some axis that's independent of "effort" and "outcomes"? Is conscientiousness defined to be the result a person achieves on a particular test, and can you provide a link to that test?

Do you often leave comments like "No. PCR-covid and pulse-oximiter-covid are different diseases. One of them involves having virus genomes in your body and the other one involves having low blood oxygen?"

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

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Post by pseudalopex »

gnicholas wrote: post #166

Check out WildCardPeople, [1] a specialized job board that should fit your description. While it is not "an ADHD job board", my understanding is that they care about the ADHD community, and they seek out employers who would benefit from the strengths that many ADHD people exhibit. 1: https://wildcardpeople.com/

"Wildcard People was a success, but turned into a normal tech job board. That's not what I wanted. I will be changing how this works in the coming months."

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

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Post by jason_slack »

thebigspacefuck wrote: post #114
pdrbrtt wrote: post #78

Hello There! Former ADHD bro here. I was diagnosed with ADHD 10 months ago. At that time my life was a BIG BLOB of MESS and CHAOS. I started attending therapy sessions with a really good Therapist once a week since then. After 6 months, I had sense of every way ADHD was affecting my life, but couldn't figure out how to overcome the symptoms by myself. My therapist recommended a psychiatrist, which prescribed Vyvanse…

Is your vyvanse like $300 a month? I was taking it and it helped with a lot of things but I stopped because it was so expensive. Therapy was expensive too

I am on Vyvanse and Adderall XR. Vyvanse has a much cleaner feeling to me and it is easier for me to skip a day (if I want to, like staying home and playing with kids) where as with the Adderall I cannot skip a day without harsh side effects.

Edit: and I forgot to mention, my insurance covers it, thankfully but they wouldn't cover something like Mydayis

Re: Ask HN: Neurodiversity/ADHD Friendly Companies

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Post by jason_slack »

sph wrote: post #154
anonymoushn wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of vendors carry generic Desoxyn at very affordable prices.

It's not the same substance. Desoxyn is pharmaceutical methamphetamine. Vyvanse is lisdexamphetamine, a slow release version of dexamphetamine. Don't be mislead by the name, they're quite different. And methamphetamine is very rarely prescribed, only when everything else fails. While Vyvanse is usually first line treatment.

Actually, for me Vyvanse wasn't even in the first three medications suggested to me to try first.
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