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Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

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Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

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Post by kayodelycaon »

_nalply wrote: post #146

Let me add something about a tangent subject: What about tech workers with a disability? I hope you find this interesting, even if this answers your question only indirectly. People with disabilities experience the pandemic the same as everybody else. Of course. However they don't have the same opportunities. yadaeno wrote that he took some time off and when he returned he got a raise [0]. This would be riskier for m…

Working remote made my disability less of a problem. There are still weeks I can’t work full time but they are less frequent now that I don’t need to go to an office and pretend to work on bad days. Without a commute or having to be around people, I have more energy available to work and I recover faster.

Pretending to not be depressed or manic behind a camera once a day is so much easier than doing so a full day in person. I’m never going back to an office if I can avoid it.

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Post by roland35 »

culopatin wrote: post #175
Cookingboy wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>To me it's mostly for the better, since everyone is focused on the product and not on some pointless team building events, company gossip or drama. It's very interesting to see how people look at relationship building with others. Many introverts on HN and Reddit see it as a mostly negative thing and equivalent people interaction and relationship building to drama, gossip, and forced friendliness.

I think there is a difference between team building through shared struggle (like new soldiers going through boot camp) and what hr comes up with as “team building activities” in the office after they went on Pinterest and searched for “team building ice breakers for meetings”. At my workplace they came up with employee appreciation day. They make a slightly better lunch and they clap for you when you walk into the c…

That sounds like a scene from the office and I grimaced inside from the thought of someone clapping for me! Any of these forced fun activities are generally not actually fun.

One of my managers used to sneak around and whisper to people to go home early (like at 1pm) on days before holidays, now that was appreciated!

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

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Post by the_gipsy »

austincheney wrote: post #151

I am looking for a job where I actually write code for real engineering problems. That does not mean play house with some framework bullshit in a permanent newb capacity. The web is 30 years old and yet many companies/developers still struggle to write the code to populate content into a web page and require stumbling around in the dark hoping a bunch of tools do their job for them. WTF? Worse, some companies like to…

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

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Post by patatino »

Farbklex wrote: post #107

I choose my job based on the commute time. One month after starting, covid hit and I worked remote only. Then I heared from freelancer friends that now almost all their projects became remote only as well. I quit my job a few months ago and work as a freelancer from home now.

How do you find clients?

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Post by sanderjd »

I think #4 is definitely right (though not necessarily the entire story). For my entire career, it has been necessary to either move to SF / the Bay (blech) to work for most of the world class tech companies, or work for one sprawling enough to have lots of satellite offices (mainly Google and Microsoft). Now I'm seeing opportunities at all kinds of great companies that I can actually apply for. This started before the pandemic actually (I date it to Stripe's "remote headquarters") but has really picked up. Nowadays if I click through to the careers page of a company I admire and might want to work for, I'm surprised if they don't have a few remote positions. Only a few years ago, what always happened in the situation was "local only, based in the Bay" -> close tab.

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Post by biztos »

aetherspawn wrote: post #166
kaycebasques wrote: post #71

In June 2021 I left Google after 6 years. I outlined my motivations here [1]. Long story short it's a conscious bet that time and energy are scarcer commodities for me than money. I'm not sure I'll last a full year but I think I have a few months left in me. [1] https://kayce.basqu.es/sabbatical/prologue

From your post: > As luck would have it, global healthcare plans seem reasonably priced. My partner and I got covered under Aetna's MHP Exclusive plan (their most comprehensive package) for under $300 a month total (not $300 per person). As an Australian, this figure seems ridiculous, even if it were in $AUD! To give you an idea, I pay around $45 AUD/mo (but I've never had to use it because free healthcare).

That sounds nice, but does your insurance cover treatment in the US? Singapore?

I pay about 600 EUR a month and that only covers up to 3 months abroad (but abroad can be anywhere) — for longer trips I still do at least a “major medical” policy and I have MedEvac insurance, so my effective price for an ad-hoc global insurance is probably more like 700-800 per month.

Which on the one hand is horrendous, but on the other hand very competitive with serious global policies that cover everything everywhere for someone my age.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

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Post by seppel »

wgg32yyyy32 wrote: post #124

In Germany salaries are the same as 2 years ago, but grocery prices increased by 13% in the last 12 months alone... So I will work as little as possible, because all the money I earn worth less and less each month.

> In Germany salaries are the same as 2 years ago

Not in tech.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Great Resignation in tech real? If so, why?

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Post by sanderjd »

aetherspawn wrote: post #166
kaycebasques wrote: post #71

In June 2021 I left Google after 6 years. I outlined my motivations here [1]. Long story short it's a conscious bet that time and energy are scarcer commodities for me than money. I'm not sure I'll last a full year but I think I have a few months left in me. [1] https://kayce.basqu.es/sabbatical/prologue

From your post: > As luck would have it, global healthcare plans seem reasonably priced. My partner and I got covered under Aetna's MHP Exclusive plan (their most comprehensive package) for under $300 a month total (not $300 per person). As an Australian, this figure seems ridiculous, even if it were in $AUD! To give you an idea, I pay around $45 AUD/mo (but I've never had to use it because free healthcare).

I'm curious what your tax rate is. Most countries with way lower health care premiums have it offset with higher "middle class" taxes than we have in the US. This is the big issue with changing the system here, people are convinced that their taxes will go up without their premiums actually going down. This is a reasonable concern because it kind of is what happens / happened with middle of the road (arguably worst of both worlds) solutions like the ACA.

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Post by nthj »

onion2k wrote: post #108
KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #101

I still remember the days when people were posting on Slashdot that software engineering has no future in the US because it's all moving to India. As we know, that turned out not to be the case. Tech companies have been willing to pay literally 10x for engineers to work from their US headquarters. Now folks are again claiming that the era of remote work is upon us. Maybe that's true. But be careful what you wish for.

Tech companies have been willing to pay literally 10x for engineers to work from their US headquarters. Outsourcing is very different to employing remote workers. When you outsource you're essentially giving up a lot of direct control over how work is done, who is doing it, what quality processes are in place, and what the deliverables look like. Companies like to control those things, and will often pay a premium to…

> Companies like to control those things

I mean, this is probably true, but in enterprise software, companies are paid by their customers to control those things and enforce various compliance standards like SOC-II. The difference between a piece of workflow SaaS charging $1K/month and $25K/month is fulfilling those compliance standards, so there are clear economic incentives in play.

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