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Re: Ask HN: Advice for finding an entry-level remote job?

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Post by ldjb »

klondike_klive wrote: post #177
ldjb wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an interesting question and something that hadn't really occurred to me. Personally, over the past few years I've been a developer, a product owner and now a product manager. But if I were to apply for a new developer role, would I leave out my current product manager role from my CV? Absolutely not! It's generally considered a bad idea to have gaps in your CV. And actually having worked various roles can actu…

How about if I was a stay-at-home dad for a year? I haven't included that in my resume - I figured if I were asked I have no problem speaking about it, I'm actually super proud of it, it just doesn't strike me as something I should put in my list of experience.

I think that's a perfectly reasonable reason for you to have a gap in your career, and prospective employers should be understanding of that.

It is something you should be prepared to explain at an interview, but I don't think it would cause any problem.

You're right that it doesn't really count as experience. Employers won't necessarily mind a one year gap on your CV, but if you do find it difficult to get to the interview stage, it could help to add a short note to your CV explaining the gap. But I'd hope that wouldn't be necessary.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for finding an entry-level remote job?

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Post by rrherr »

Some remote jobs you could apply to right now:

Automattic Happiness Engineer: https://automattic.com/work-with-us/#open-positions

Zapier Support team: https://zapier.com/jobs/#job-openings

To help you get a remote software development job, consider doing a remote, part-time bootcamp with an ISA (Income Share Agreement). That means you pay nothing until you're hired. Some options include:

Lambda School: https://lambdaschool.com/courses/full-stack-web-development

Thinkful: https://www.thinkful.com/bootcamp/web-development/topic?form...

Re: Ask HN: Advice for finding an entry-level remote job?

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Post by sudhirj »

Check out https://weworkremotely.com/

WWR is interesting because it has programming and devops jobs, but also customer support and miscellaneous jobs, all remote.

I’d suggest going through the list, short listing the ones that look appealing to you, and then applying the reverse order of desirability, so you get to practice on the interviews you aren’t that keen on and use them as backups or leverage if you do get through.

I’d suggest starting with something that you can do easily and that will settle you for a while, then you can prep and study for the next-level jobs if you want something more ambitious.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for finding an entry-level remote job?

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Post by sudhirj »

sudhirj wrote: post #184

Check out https://weworkremotely.com/ WWR is interesting because it has programming and devops jobs, but also customer support and miscellaneous jobs, all remote. I’d suggest going through the list, short listing the ones that look appealing to you, and then applying the reverse order of desirability, so you get to practice on the interviews you aren’t that keen on and use them as backups or leverage if you do get th…

Specifically, I’m suggesting with the remote customer service or community manager jobs while you study and prep for the technical ones. The competition for technical jobs is pretty high right now because lots of people can work remote, and the bar is higher because you can’t receive as much on-the-job training. Maybe look for the service jobs with a technical bent of you want a leg up on your tech career path.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for finding an entry-level remote job?

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Post by whoknew1122 »

msg wrote: post #125
whoknew1122 wrote: post #118

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> "Then I would try to make sure not to target FAANG types of jobs or any markets where every job posting gets 300 bootcamp applicants." The second job I landed in tech was a FAANG. I completely agree that you shouldn't target FAANG type jobs for your first job. Not because of the other applicants. I could care less about the other applicants. Where I work and do tech interviews (AWS), it's not about the other applic…

I interviewed people for Amazon as well before moving to another FAANG. All I would amplify here is that entry level is entry level, especially in software. None of the college hires have professional experience (maybe internships, but they had to start from nothing to get those anyway). So what you are trying to do is 1) not be an asshole; look at their leadership principles and figure out how you resonate with them…

> " I interviewed people for Amazon as well before moving to another FAANG. All I would amplify here is that entry level is entry level, especially in software. None of the college hires have professional experience (maybe internships, but they had to start from nothing to get those anyway)."

100% agree with everything you said, although depending on the Org 'entry level' can mean 'just graduated from college'. In Premium Support, at least, they're always tinkering with their recruiting models.

I was hired as entry level with 1 year experience at a startup. These days, that entry level job is reserved for recent college graduates or people getting out of the military. They wouldn't slot me as entry level today for recruiting/interviewing purposes.

Not sure how AWS handles entry level software engineering positions.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for finding an entry-level remote job?

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Post by mettamage »

T-zex wrote: post #162
mettamage wrote: post #159

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Question: how do you deal with gaps in your resume? Let's suppose you were a machine learning engineer for 2 years, a web developer for another 2 and a product owner for 3 years. I presume that some experiences would almost make it seem that you're not dedicated to the role you're applying for if you leave them in. So you have to leave them out. How do you deal with that?

Why would you make such an absurd presumption? Life is life and there are lots of circumstances pushing you to make tough choices. Always being able to stick to your dream job or career path is not an option for most people.

It's my experience when applying for a job that people are very judgmental. I've learned to take that judgmental frame, if I wouldn't then I would never be invited for an interview.

The only places that don't have these judgmental frames are a subset of startups.

Just my experience, YMMV.

Re: Ask HN: Advice for finding an entry-level remote job?

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Post by vcanales »

leesalminen wrote: post #103
mkoryak wrote: post #102

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But were you able to keep partying? And for how long and how hard?

Hahahah, the most important question! I was a fairly prolific partier until about 2014, right when I started building Gingr. I actually started building the app while on partying-related probation. The inability to party hard was what drove me to code after-hours. Today, I’m pretty lame at least according to my wife and son. Thanks for asking ;).

Just wanted to say that I read Grindr and I had to do a double take :)

Re: Ask HN: Advice for finding an entry-level remote job?

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Post by gwbas1c »

Is your family being fair to you?

(I already gave a career-focused response in this thread.)

Can you send one of your siblings to live with your brother? Can you move with the other sibling?

What if you took a job near your brother, and all four of you lived together?

If you move with one of your siblings, will the situation be better for the sibling? (Better schools, better special needs programs?)

Can you and your brother send money back to your parents or another caregiver?

Whenever I hear an "I live in a poor area" story, I always suspect that the situation is more unreasonable than recognized.

Is this whole situation to keep your family farm afloat? Remember, a farm is a business. It's not fair to you to have this kind of impact to your life if your parents (or whoever is running the farm) are working dawn 'til dusk on a failing business.

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