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Re: Ask HN: Ever been hired through a “who's hiring” post?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Company 1 wanted me for a remote position, but wanted to pay me about half my market rate. Is it possible to get anywhere close to a Silicon Valley salary on a remote position?

Sure, I always pay everybody the same (for a given position). I.e. paying for the job done, not for the needs. Else what do you take into account? "This person has no kids, so needs less cash." "This person has a vacation house; clearly need to cover those expenses". I always prefer local so if I'm hiring remote it's because of some skill I can't find locally. I want them to be a happy, productive employee, not to fe…

Yeah, I tend to agree that location is BS to use as a way to try and save a buck. Everyone's cost of living is different, and even in a local area can diverge dramatically.

If you've filtered for basic competency where you can be sure you're not being BSed about their basic capabilities, I think I as a hiring manager would predict a slight correlation between better negotiating skills and better programming (and other) skills that I actually need them for. Often better negotiating is just asking for a higher-than-average price up front because you know you're worth it, because you know you're probably more skilled than the other person, and you know that in all likelihood you'll be contributing beyond the official bullet-points of your role -- i.e. your "given position" on paper is the same as the other person but you're doing a lot more.

Of course many places just need average skilled programmers, and if you can fill your roles with good enough people at a cheap price that's good business. But the general assumption that everyone implements the same Cog interface so they should get paid the same, while fair, is incorrect -- just like everyone has a different cost of living, I've never come across two identical devs nor two identical (except maybe on a short piece of paper leaving out a lot of details) dev positions. I think cutting out the possibility for negotiating better than others will also cut out the skilled-and-know-it batch from joining you unless they're super passionate about the product for some reason.

Re: Ask HN: Ever been hired through a “who's hiring” post?

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post #63

I've gotten two solid leads leading to interviews through "Who's Hiring" posts, but didn't end up taking either job. Company 1 wanted me for a remote position, but wanted to pay me about half my market rate. This is a casualty of the salary dance -- everyone is so busy hiding their numbers that sometimes you get too far into the process before you realize there's no way to make the numbers line up. If they'd listed a…

Company 1 wanted me for a remote position, but wanted to pay me about half my market rate. Is it possible to get anywhere close to a Silicon Valley salary on a remote position?

The Seattle area seems to have equivalent or better salaries locally or when the remote company is in SF. Might just be my limited view though. I know a guy in my company who relocated to France and took a lower pay, but I suspect if he had stayed in the US it wouldn't have gone down much if at all. There are a few others who transition into a mostly-work-from-home person, then full-time-work-from-home except occasional sync ups for planning or whatever, and then leave the city entirely for a cheap cabin with fiber somewhere nice (still the occasional meetups though). Not sure if their pay gets cut.

Re: Ask HN: Ever been hired through a “who's hiring” post?

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post #80

A post from "the other side of the table" :). The previous company I worked at, I hired two people through who's hiring posts. We pretty much tried it out for about six months as we didn't have much luck through the more traditional channels our division's HR department used. So yes, there are real positions being filled through these posts. That said, just because it's on Hacker News and this is an informal place do…

I think also you have to have an understanding of what problem you as a dev or designer are solving when they pick you. For example, right now the mobile app market is maturing.

Thus, if I just put up a code/app demo site I am not matching up to what I should be solving for the startup, that is app and in-app conversions. Thus, in my case I have buckled down in some 100 hour weeks to produce some UX app demos that are somewhat lite full apps that show how I would solve the app and in-app conversions issues through UX design.

Once I have the intro conversation established with that I can than point out that its actual working code and talk about the code architecture.

So at the end of Nov when I post the UX demos of videos,screenshots,etc I know that I will see a huge upswing in both visits to my stuff and some full qualified leads opposed to my meager non-effective approach that I tried in previous months.

Re: Ask HN: Ever been hired through a “who's hiring” post?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to see it from th job hunter's perspective. It is very common to send out 20 resume's and maybe get a single response or two. It is very time consuming to write a custom multi-paragraph cover letter with every application. Eventually all job hunters learn that you get the same response rate when you write one sentence cover letters as you do when you put a lot of effort into them. Why spend so much effort wh…

"It is very common to send out 20 resume's and maybe get a single response or two. It is very time consuming to write a custom multi-paragraph cover letter with every application." If you're a programmer and you're approaching problems this way, I most likely don't want to hire you. Strike a balance between automation and giving a personal touch where it's necessary.

And if you really wanted the job you'd take a few minutes to personalize it. I'm assuming most hiring managers want that part of a cover letter to see a little about you as a person and why you're interested.

I'd rather hear from someone specifically interested in this job vs someone looking for just any job.

Re: Ask HN: Ever been hired through a “who's hiring” post?

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We've hired two amazing (remote) ML and Distributed Systems engineers at Mediachain Labs from "Who's Hiring". We try to post every month. They were both excited about our vision and finding them in the wild like that was a perfect fit!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12846907

Re: Ask HN: Ever been hired through a “who's hiring” post?

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post #119

About 18 months ago I posted on "Who wants to be hired?" and saw that Realm was looking for people in the monthly "Who's hiring" thread. I think it was Tim ('ello mate, hope you got the bucket picture) who posted those on HN back then. I reached out to them, alongside a number of other startups that were interested in remote workers or had an office in Copenhagen (my SO and I wanted to move there from southern France…

The job listings on your web site don't suggest that remote work positions are available. If that's really the case, then I respectfully suggest updating the text.

(I really appreciate the effort Realm has put into supporting the development community by hosting conference videos; you're definitely creating a lot of goodwill that way.)

Re: Ask HN: Ever been hired through a “who's hiring” post?

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post #80

A post from "the other side of the table" :). The previous company I worked at, I hired two people through who's hiring posts. We pretty much tried it out for about six months as we didn't have much luck through the more traditional channels our division's HR department used. So yes, there are real positions being filled through these posts. That said, just because it's on Hacker News and this is an informal place do…

>A post from "the other side of the table" :) You're describing what worked for you. You don't know what works for other companies that are hiring. You don't know the percentage of companies that look for the same things you do, the percentage that use an automated resume filter that simply ignores cover letters, the percentage that do something entirely weird and unexpected, the percentage that believe the cover let…

I am not sure why this was down voted. I think you touched a great point, maybe because of the tone ?

I am fine with any requirements for the interview process as long as they are clearly defined.

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