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Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by ai_slop_hater »

zingababba wrote: post #169
noprocrasted wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lie and ChatGPT your resume to hell. Use those interview cheating tools to pass the bullshit interviews that will be thrown at you. Your competition is doing it, there is no reason for you not to.

Wisepilled response. The state of hiring is completely broken. I started a new position recently and what they told me the position was like vs what I saw/learned after I started were two completely different things. It's like managers don't even know what their own team does.

No one knows anything and no one cares.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by anovikov »

Nesco wrote: post #170
anovikov wrote: post #164

Personally, i have stopped trying and retired about 9-10 months ago. There's nothing there, i think the whole thing is dead.

retired?

Yes just pulled the plug. Now mostly travelling and meeting people (not even drinking, because Ozempic totally killed all the joy of doing it).

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

idontwantthis wrote: post #65
__turbobrew__ wrote: post #53

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Not sure why you are being downvoted. This is my experience as well. If you have experience at FAANG doing “foundational work” (read: datacenter engineering, core software infrastructure, multi zone computing, point of presence management) you are still in high demand. Many of the people I know in such areas are going to the big hyperscalers to build the infrastructure to run AI inference. There are not a lot of peop…

I created this post because my experience is the complete opposite.

The logically consistent explanation for both your experience and my experience is that you are on the other side of the K as people who are in demand and I am on the same side of the K as people in demand.

My guess is that one of the following applies: 1. You do not live silicon valley 2. You do not work at a FAANG 3. You have not built foundational infrastructure

I think if all three of the above are true, you are in demand to build AI hyperscalers. The trillions of dollars going into datacenters has to be built and managed by humans.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

noprocrasted wrote: post #167
__turbobrew__ wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you are being downvoted. This is my experience as well. If you have experience at FAANG doing “foundational work” (read: datacenter engineering, core software infrastructure, multi zone computing, point of presence management) you are still in high demand. Many of the people I know in such areas are going to the big hyperscalers to build the infrastructure to run AI inference. There are not a lot of peop…

Do you know how to break into such fields, for someone having experience operating on-prem infra at a smaller scale?

Unfortunately no. I made the jump in 2022 from doing on-prem at a small company to doing on-prem at a hyperscaler when software engineers were very in demand and got placed in an organization which does physical datacenter design and core software infrastructure (software defined networking, service discovery, host management, datacenter failovers).

Back in 2022 you could make the moves, but I think now it is very hard to make the jump.

Part of the issue with building and running very large on-prem infrastructure is that you can only get experience by doing it. It not like you can run thousands of racks in multiple datacenters as a personal side project.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by toyetic »

tavavex wrote: post #154

I'm surprised no one here talked about the junior side of the market yet. It's underrepresented on HN, but I would have still expected to see something. I'll share what I subjectively gathered from this job market. Senior devs, people with many years of experience, people who have had the chance to funnel themselves into something specialized are doing okay. It's still not as good as it once was, many still find them…

I have about 3 yoe and agree my friends who’ve gotten laid off took 6months to a year to get a new job and new graduated are taking about the same even longer.

What’s interesting to me is what this looks like in 10 years when the lack of junior engineers and smaller amount of cs grads come to fruition

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by idontwantthis »

confidantlake wrote: post #142
idontwantthis wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get contacted by recruiters for remote (USA) jobs in all kinds of industries, mostly not ones that I have any experience in.

Those are scams.

My multiple rounds of interviews beg to differ.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by idontwantthis »

__turbobrew__ wrote: post #173
idontwantthis wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I created this post because my experience is the complete opposite.

The logically consistent explanation for both your experience and my experience is that you are on the other side of the K as people who are in demand and I am on the same side of the K as people in demand. My guess is that one of the following applies: 1. You do not live silicon valley 2. You do not work at a FAANG 3. You have not built foundational infrastructure I think if all three of the above are true, you are…

I have nothing to do with any of those points.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by jitler »

troupo wrote: post #26

I'm kinda looking at jobs available (Europe): - AI (as in: stupid AI wrappers "disrupting" shit) - FinTech - Gambling - AI in FinTech That's about 99% of jobs advertised. No idea how hard it's to get hired, but even jobs on offer are shitty.

Reminds me of back a few years browsing job boards and the only people posting jobs were blockchain companies for some reason.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by bcbb7 »

mbgerring wrote: post #27

My current job search has been the longest and most difficult of my career (5 months so far). Caveats: - I’m only applying with climate tech companies - I’m trying to transition back to engineering after a detour into product - I’m trying to pivot into more hardware-focused roles Most companies I apply to don’t respond at all, and I’ve had about 6 phone screens, two technical interviews, and one “we’d love to hire yo…

How was your detour into product? What kind of skills/instincts you developed being in product? I always imagined it being kind of freeing -- leaving behind engineering implementation details and thinking more in terms of the final results.
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