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Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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I think your comment was generated by an LLM and hereby vote for your immediate and permanent instant ban.

I've seen people admit it. I've even seen a commenter say that they were an agent. We can do these cases.

Then nobody would admit it, so the problem persists. Except maybe for fully automated accounts. Those should of course be banned anyways.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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This has long been my biggest issue, much bigger than new accounts spamming slop. There are accounts with 10000x karma that do little more than feed links from the NY Times and similar publications, regardless of their relevance or value. Each one gets 4-5 karma, a few crack double digits. Post 10 or 20 a day over a year or two and they're five figures. Pure farming.

What's the point? It's not like karma gets you anything.. ..or are they selling the accounts?

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Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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I rotate accounts on "social media" (mostly Reddit and Hacker News, the others don't interest me) every few weeks or months to make sure not too much of my post history accumulates in one account. I would dislike it very much if there would be high friction to create new accounts. On the other hand my behavior is probably a major outlier.

> not too much of my post history accumulates in one account I'm curious to hear what benefits you think can be gained from avoiding this.

I do the same. It simply means theres less accidental leakage / self-doxing that could be pieced together if you (or llm) read every comment on the account.

Suggestion: Pick a long term account, dump the comments, and see what an llm could figure out about the target

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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The problem is that we might lose some gold. Not too seldom have I seen the author or a significant party of a story chime in through a fresh green account, as they were alerted by the story being posted here one way or another. And usually when they do it's very interesting. As such I would find it detrimental if they had to jump through too many hoops so they don't bother or it takes too long so the thread dies bef…

Seems like restricting posts but not comments from a fresh account would thread that needle pretty well?

If that were to happen, I'd also suggest that comments from fresh accounts should also have URLs deleted or disabled.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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post #110

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Can you elaborate on that?

Eliza was one of the first chatbots from the mid to late 60s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

that's interesting, tell me more about one of the first chatbots from the mid to late 60s

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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Please do so. And, forgive me if I speak heresy, but there has to be more proof of work (friction) to create accounts. I was shocked at how easy it is for something like chatgpt atlas to create new accounts on the fly.

I rotate accounts on "social media" (mostly Reddit and Hacker News, the others don't interest me) every few weeks or months to make sure not too much of my post history accumulates in one account. I would dislike it very much if there would be high friction to create new accounts. On the other hand my behavior is probably a major outlier.

Reddit didn't ban you? I got banned for that lmao

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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post #164

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The problem is that we might lose some gold. Not too seldom have I seen the author or a significant party of a story chime in through a fresh green account, as they were alerted by the story being posted here one way or another. And usually when they do it's very interesting. As such I would find it detrimental if they had to jump through too many hoops so they don't bother or it takes too long so the thread dies bef…

Seems like restricting posts but not comments from a fresh account would thread that needle pretty well?

I'm surprised posts aren't restricted a bit more. Maybe that's just my old school "lurk moar" mentality, but I feel like I really need to understand the vibes of a community before I start to contribute posts to it.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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There is an epistemic silver lining. This is in fact a Red Queen's race that cannot be won. So in the end the only solution is to evaluate the text on its own merits without reference to the writer's status, because that status can no longer be reliably detected. For a public feed like this one, the only alternative is to ignore it. The fire hose of data will inevitably become ever more fecal. We can only walk away f…

Agreed. Merit is the only fair solution. If OP noticed a garbage post, that means they evaluated a post on merit and decided it was garbage. So it works. We have genAI generating videos and the quality sucks compared to human produced and filmed content. People call it out and nobody is going to watch a genAI movie at the theater or binge a genAI TV show. Merit based filtering. GenAI for music is not as good as human…

> Disclaimer: I am a new account.

Welcome. Illegitimi non carborundum.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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I rotate accounts on "social media" (mostly Reddit and Hacker News, the others don't interest me) every few weeks or months to make sure not too much of my post history accumulates in one account. I would dislike it very much if there would be high friction to create new accounts. On the other hand my behavior is probably a major outlier.

Reddit didn't ban you? I got banned for that lmao

Never got banned for it, though my "rotations" tend to be "a few weeks every year".

even if they did ban me: the account was going to be deleted in a short while regardless. So that fear isn't present for what's essentially a longer lasting throwaway.

Re: Ask HN: Please restrict new accounts from posting

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post #38

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For all accounts or just new ones?

Just new ones for now. I don't want to make HN harder for legit new users, but I do think a bit of community participation is reasonable before posting a Show HN, so it isn't just a box on some "how to promote your project" checklist.

It does seem, anecdotally, that the Show HN is being used less since the recent analytic posts that made it to the front page.
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