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Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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Unfortunately there are effectively 0 alternatives to VMware / Parallels if wanting to do MacOS within MacOS.

Don't a bunch of the newer tools that wrap Virtualization.Framework (which itself wraps/builds on the lower level Hypervisor.framework) already support this?

There's even an example project to do this in code: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/virtualization/run...

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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If you were more polite, you could have a good entry to the discussion. Yes, Proxmox is built on Debian so anything Debian can do Proxmox VE can mostly do as well without major issues.

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Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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At PriorCo, I did a slide deck presentation of our options at the time (2023/2024) and pitched essentially three pathways: stay on VMware, move to Apache Cloudstack, or move to Nutanix. The deck was roundly ignored in favor of a lift-and-shift to AWS for remaining infrastructure. If I were running the migration, my preferred pathway would’ve been to Apache Cloudstack. We had the expertise to pull it off, and it would…

Would you be considering Oxide in the future with their recent $100M Series B funding round, their recent sales to clients like Lawerence Livermore National Labs, and the recent AWS outage in mind?

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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Depends on what VMware product you’re using. I’m still stuck on Workstation Pro because Hyper-V takes over my computer and slows down anything virtualized that isn’t Windows.

For servers, there’s things like Proxmox that are super versatile and can be deployed to a 1U server in a few hours. And if whatever you’re virtualizing exists mostly in the application/user layer and doesn’t touch lower level APIs (eg raw TCP), Docker/Portainer is even better (no Kubernates required!).

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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I work for an MSP, mostly with small to medium companies. Licensing costs went up a ton when broadcom acquired vmware. They went up a ton more this year with minimum core counts, current licensing costs are roughly $20k a year minimum. They might hike the price again, even medium businesses that see some value in avoiding an expensive migration want to avoid this uncertainty. Basically they don't want to deal with sm…

My organisation went down the Nutanix path with about 1/4 of the DC about 18 months ago. They're now just finalising the move away feom Nutanix. From a server and dev admin point of view we had really odd VM behaviour, poorer than expected process performance, and random instability that just couldn't be resolved. I believe other system owners had similar and that the VM admins had their own range of oddities to trac…

What did you choose to replace?

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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post #118

For Mac/Linux/Hybrid-Cloud shops -> "Incus" (can also host macOS and Windows instances) for most work and "Firecracker" for specialized appliances. For Windows shops (you sick bstrds :D) -> Hyper-V RE: Proxmox, not a hater, but errtime I read that name, I picture "Mike Myers Dieter". Seriously tho, the best they could do for themselves would be to make ProxMox into a UI for the Incus REST API (and their legacy backen…

| | ----> The World of Incus -> https://youtu.be/TzH2L5Bzlh8

Re: Ask HN: What are people doing to get off of VMware?

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post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lack of support for SANs and ISCSI really bothers me. I like the way this style of setup works, I would like to keep doing it.

Proxmox supports both FC and ISCSI though!?

No equivalent of VMFS though.
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