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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by bioemerl »

liveoneggs wrote: post #160
auctoritas wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm more fatigued by people denying the obvious that ChatGPT and similar models are revolutionary. People have been fantasizing about the dawn of AI for almost a century and none managed to predict the rampant denialism of the past few months. I suppose it makes sense though. Denial is the default response when we face threats to our identity and sense of self worth.

So, to you, ChatGPT is approaching AGI?

I do believe if we are going to get AGI without some random revolutionary breakthrough, to achieve it iteratively, It's going to come through language models.

Think about it.

What's the most expressive medium we have which is also absolutely inundated with data?

To broadly be able to predict human speech you need to broadly be able to predict the human mind. To broadly predict a human mind requires you build a model of it, and to have a model of a human mind? Welcome to general intelligence.

We won't realize we've created an AGI until someone makes a text model, starts throwing random problems at it, and discovers that it's able to solve them.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by bobmaxup »

goolulusaurs wrote: post #130

There is a lot of negativity towards the idea of AI in this thread, and I feel like someone has to say it: it is quite likely that in the near future computers will be better than almost all humans at almost all cognitive tasks. If you have a task or are trying to accomplish something, and the way you do it is by moving a mouse around or typing on a keyboard then it is very likely that an AI will be able to do that t…

> GPT3 can already do this for text

Kind of, it isn't fool proof. I use GPT3 and Chat GPT (not the same thing) almost daily, and there is quite a bit of error correction that I am doing. Still, it is really helpful.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by whiddershins »

NobleLie wrote: post #159
BulgarianIdiot wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“It’s just statistics” is an evergreen way to dismiss AI. The problem is you’re also just statistics.

Source for consciousness / intelligence to be "statistics"? I don't think there is any because there is no functional model for what organic intelligence is or how it operates. There are plethora of fascinating attempts / models but only a subset implore that it is solely "statistical". And even if it was statistical, the implementation of the wet system is absolutely not like a gigantic list of vectorized (stripped…

There’s a man who claims to have solved consciousness as a multilayered Bayesian prediction system.

See Scott Alexander for attempts to explain what is apparently impenetrable papers on it.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by pjio »

Avalaxy wrote: post #66

I'm not at all tired of AI, but I am tired of all the sales/marketing/business people taking our AI, misunderstanding it, pretending it does all sorts of things that it absolutely does not do and then also not being willing to being educated about how things _really_ work under the hood. It's the same kind of people that were hyping cryptocurrencies in the past. People who understand nothing about the technology, but…

With all respect for good salesman who can understand a customer and recommend the right solution: Those other types, which just verbally hype something until they get their lead, those may be replaceable by said ai some day...

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by barrell »

Kiro wrote: post #127
tosihakkeri wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is something any crypto-bro would have told you in 2017.

Really don't understand the constant crypto comparisons. We have one technology that hasn't provided any benefits whatsoever in 10 years and one that has provided real utility from day one. One deserves the hype, the other doesn't.

Bitcoin has provided hundreds of billions in value, chatGPT has provided me with one hundred times the spam.

I'm actually optimistic about both crypto and AI, but I see the authors point. I really don't think the comparison is hard to spot between the AI hype and, say, the NFT hype from 1 year ago.

A lot of people are claiming that these technologies will imminently change everything, fundamentally. In reality, both of them are just neat things that give us a glimpse of what the future may hold, and hold a bunch of promise, but aren't really changing anything fundamentally. Not yet, at least.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by rg111 »

If you are getting AI fatigue, you never really scratched the surface and limited yourself to to the hype-train of AI, and not actual AI.

AI is wide and deep, and its proper uses are so so far removed from mainstream media and the hype-train.

AI still has too many undiscovered areas of usefulness to the degree that it will nothing short of transform those areas.

But you hear most of the times about Stable Diffusion, see melted faces and weird fingers, and screenshots of ChatGPT.

These, wrt area and width, are nothing compared to what is possible.

So, no, I am not AI fatigued as I don't pay much attention to these hypes at all.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by RivieraKid »

auctoritas wrote: post #141
dual_dingo wrote: post #32

The "I" in AI is just complete bullshit and I can't understand why so many people are in a awe of a bit of software that chains words to another based on some statistical model. The sad truth is that ChatGPT is about as good an AI as ELIZA was in 1966, it's just better (granted: much better) at hiding its total lack of actual human understanding. It's nothing more than an expensive parlor trick, IMHO. Github CoPilot?…

I'm more fatigued by people denying the obvious that ChatGPT and similar models are revolutionary. People have been fantasizing about the dawn of AI for almost a century and none managed to predict the rampant denialism of the past few months. I suppose it makes sense though. Denial is the default response when we face threats to our identity and sense of self worth.

> I suppose it makes sense though. Denial is the default response when we face threats to our identity and sense of self worth.

It's important to note that this is your assumption which I believe to be wrong (for most people here).

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by davibu »

I'm tired of people saying they're tired. I use ChatGPT every day and it provides results of a quality that has little to do with Google, even though I'm aware that it sometimes fibs to me, makes up names for functions that don't exist, or makes mistakes. There's hype, but I think it's much more deserved than the hype around cryptocurrencies

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone else getting AI fatigue?

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Post by grugagag »

anta40 wrote: post #161

AI fatigue? Nope, far from it. I asked some general questions to ChatGPT, and it gave me pretty coherent answers. But when I asked really specific question like "How to rewrite Linux kernel in Lisp", then it gave me seemingly gibberish answer. This was about 2 months ago, BTW. Maybe ChatGPT already learn more stuffs and are smarter. Let's see...

> Maybe ChatGPT already learn more stuffs and are smarter. Let's see...

LLMs don’t have a mechanism to learn from interaction, their models are simply fed more data and luckily you’ll get better results, but you might as well get worse results if said data isn’t well curated.

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