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Ask HN: How to break anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle?

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Re: Ask HN: How to break anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle?

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For me, I think it would help to just write a plan down and then just execute it. Also, just set aside a time for it like with working in an office, work is from 8 am to 5 pm so can't indulge in too many distractions during that time and so body gets used to doing intellectual work during that time. Consistency helps the body gets used to it like with a consistent sleep schedule.

Your advice to get rid of his problem is just to not have his problem.

Re: Ask HN: How to break anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle?

#172
There are lot of good strategies outlined here but I have found that sometimes it can be helpful to look at your life and choices from an outside view - like a person reading a story or watching a movie - and consider what direction you really want to be going in.

Do you want your anxiety and fears to be the author of your story or do YOU want to be the author of your story?

It sounds a little crazy but this small degree of separation can help take you out of the moment and give you back some agency

Re: Ask HN: How to break anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle?

#173

For me, I think it would help to just write a plan down and then just execute it. Also, just set aside a time for it like with working in an office, work is from 8 am to 5 pm so can't indulge in too many distractions during that time and so body gets used to doing intellectual work during that time. Consistency helps the body gets used to it like with a consistent sleep schedule.

Your advice to get rid of his problem is just to not have his problem.

> If i don't pass the next 4 assignments i will fail the lab, but i keep avoiding sitting down with all of my power.

Part of the solution is to just sit-down. Like with time in the office of 8 am to 5 pm, just get into the habit of sitting down and just reduce distractions that way. Like even if nothing is done in the 8 am to 5 pm timeframe, just not playing video games or watching a movie is already a big step in the right direction.

Like an office helps the body to get to do intellectual stuff, like laying in bed helps the body to fall asleep. That's the same idea, sitting down in 8 am to 5 pm period and just not being allowed to watch videos or play video games, helps the body get used to doing intellectual work.

For practical advice, the student probably can just spend-time in the library even if just sitting in the library.

Re: Ask HN: How to break anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle?

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So on top of the other great suggestions here, I can share a trick that has helped me to get me past periods where I was feeling either depressed or stuck or anxious or otherwise not my best. If I have a decision to make ("Should I go for this new job?" "Should I move to a new city?") I ask myself, "What would the happy, confident version of me do?" and then I do that. When I'm depressed or fearful I tend to make bad choices that perpetuate that state; when I'm happy I tend to make better choices that make me happier. This is a way of short circuiting that feedback loop and making even a small step to feel better.

Re: Ask HN: How to break anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle?

#175

The best solution to getting past the anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle is to take small, manageable actions while accepting the feelings that go along with those actions. Start with the smallest steps possible. Maybe that means opening the assignment and saving it to your computer. Then put it down and walk away. Come back in a little while and take another small step, such as reading over the assignment or making an out…

someone posted an article about ACT not long ago, I couldn't find the acronym, thanks :)

Re: Ask HN: How to break anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle?

#176

The best solution to getting past the anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle is to take small, manageable actions while accepting the feelings that go along with those actions. Start with the smallest steps possible. Maybe that means opening the assignment and saving it to your computer. Then put it down and walk away. Come back in a little while and take another small step, such as reading over the assignment or making an out…

I wish someone had given me this pièce of advice early in life instead of finding that out at 25. I call it the foot-in-the-door method, it makes wonders.

There's the 3 seconds to act too. Don't hesitate.. for positive attempts you want a fair amount of impulsivity.

Re: Ask HN: How to break anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle?

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post #167

Go to: the tapping solution dot com Give it a try. I think you'll be surprised at the results. Before you judge this method, known as "Emotional Freedom Technique", consider that the U.S. Veterans Admin. approves it for treating PTSD. The Army don't waste time on woo. More: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/veterans-administration-appro...

That link says that the army rejected it and it took Congressional involvement to have it approved.

Re: Ask HN: How to break anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle?

#178

The best solution to getting past the anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle is to take small, manageable actions while accepting the feelings that go along with those actions. Start with the smallest steps possible. Maybe that means opening the assignment and saving it to your computer. Then put it down and walk away. Come back in a little while and take another small step, such as reading over the assignment or making an out…

I just bought Acceptance and Commitment Therapy on Audible. I take book recommendations on HN relatively seriously so I'm looking forward to this read.

Re: Ask HN: How to break anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle?

#179
If I’m being honest with myself the biggest thing that got me away from this pattern was leaving school. I graduated but dropping out wouldn’t have changed anything with regard to job prospects.

Not sure why but working full time is WAY easier than school ever was.

Re: Ask HN: How to break anxiety/fear-avoidance cycle?

#180
I suggest getting a therapist at the minimum. If clinical anxiety is the root cause or catalyst, then a psychiatrist could help get over that hill.

I also suggest taking the Enneagram test. Understanding your personality at both its best and worst can give you insight on how you got there and how to stay or leave there, respectively.

In the short term, try to understand that fear of failure is basically fearing the inevitable, since you will fail at many points in life, but fear will actually increase the probability and impact of failure. At the same time, failure is somewhat meaningless unless it affects your health or life (like failing to free solo a cliff). Time keeps ticking and the "moment of failure" passes without a blip.

I have been taught at times that any done project is a good project, no matter how small. So in many ways, you have got to just jump in and do something, no matter how small. Then those small things will start building on each other. For your assignments, address what you need to get started and then you just gotta do it. Don't let anxiety take over once you do start. You won't finish the assignment in the first minute. It will take time. In the future, start earlier. When you start earlier the repercussions of failure are much smaller, and it doesn't loom over you. You have time, you can ask questions, you can take a break and think about it, you can do hobbies, see friends, etc. As you procrastinate, all these strategies are thrown out the window. Talk to someone. If you're stressed out, ask for help. Speak to the instructor or whoever is managing the assignments or tasks. Don't try to solve every problem (any problem in life) all on your own. To get you going, I'd almost suggest this as your first tactic. Go talk to whoever this assignment is due to and be honest with them. You got started late due to whatever (it doesn't matter) and you're stressed out, but you want to do well and get back ahead of things. Ask for help on getting started. Any reasonable person will respond well to someone telling them they're stressed but want to do what they can to work on what they need to. If they're not helpful, ask a fellow classmate.

And don't underestimate the experience and helpfulness that a psychiatrist and psychologist (therapist) can provide to you. It can be a very effective method to address these things. They are not just for scary psychological disorders, but left unchecked, depression and anxiety can become scary.

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