Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by jitl » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 4:58 PM UTC

InCityDreams wrote: post #18

srvmshr wrote: post #3

Why don't you try Notion. Seriously, it feels so much better IMHO, with atomic rollback and you can export your data out in a non-proprietary format (MD, HTML, PDF) if it comes to difficult choices someday.

Big red buttons abound: "Try notion for free" that lead to "Sign up with....". I'm interested (especially as i tried evernote previously and found it to be 'not for me'), but where's the pricing page [supposed to be]?

(I work at Notion)

Pricing is here: https://www.notion.so/pricing

Our business plan is to charge for collaboration, so Notion is free with no writing limits for personal users. You can pay $4/mo for deeper version history, bigger file uploads, more guest editors, etc; and more per month to use Notion with a team.

I'll send a note to the marketing design team with your feedback.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by artificial » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 4:59 PM UTC

sph wrote: post #78

mszcz wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've switched to SwiftScan with automatic upload to Dropbox. It does decent-ish OCR on documents so that you more or less can select text in scanned PDFs. I rarely search inside scanned docs, most of the search is by filename which I manually set a couple of times a week. For file search VoidTools Everything is great.

Any other recommendation for an iOS scanner app that doesn't want me to subscribe to a mailing list and doesn't ask for monthly payment? Free or one time payment only.

If you’re looking for discovery scope out Memos. Been using it for years, happy customer. It indexes all images, I snap menus and receipts and search is instant plus everything is on device.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by amacbride » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #153

shrimp_emoji wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, so that's what Blizzard/Bethesda have been doing. :D

And EA

and Dropbox

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by lukifer » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:01 PM UTC

DesiLurker wrote: post #148

zerr wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many products would have been better off by declaring them as feature complete and only continuing fixing bugs. Unfortunately, this happens rarely due to misalignment with employment incentives I believe.

This is the reason I believe there should be a framework/mechanism for dying companies to open source their works. this way they can continue to live on forever or at least have a way to influence something better.

"Exit to Community": https://www.colorado.edu/lab/medlab/exit-to-community

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by sandgiant » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:03 PM UTC

I switched to DEVONthink Pro when Evernote switched to Electron and started removing features (e.g. related notes). I capture a lot of images of documents and need the OCR capabilities and search. They also have a fairly extensive AppleScript support so you can automate almost everything. Very happy with the move so far.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by kodah » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:08 PM UTC

Evernote hasn't really advanced for me, especially as my needs have evolved. I ended up switching a while back because of that. I'm currently using Notion because those little built in databases are powerful, but what I really want is a mix of Obsidian and OneNote that can be easily extended and self-hosted.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by kactus » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:11 PM UTC

Evernote started going south for me in 2014. I switched to OneNote and things were great, but it’s far more than I need.

These days I just use Apple Notes and it’s been flawless.

Notion looks neat but I’m wary of startups now. I’d probably use SimpleNote if I switched.

I also have a bunch of scattered markdown notes everywhere, wouldn’t be too hard for me to just sync a folder and use something like Typora to make adding images easier.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by danielodievich » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:12 PM UTC

dotBen wrote: post #165

I migrated from Evernote to Microsoft OneNote. If I was 10 years younger or still an engineer I would have experimented with a 'roll your own' FOSS option but these days I'm an exec and I just need my notes to be stable, dependable, easily accessible etc. OneNote is essentially free, it's Microsoft's gateway to get people to come back into their ecosystem and you obviously know it's going to be well maintained, high…

I've been a onenote user from its inception, desktop only.

I've never lost a note yet and have all of them since I started gosh whenever it shipped. It survived moving 4 companies offline until 5th forced me into syncing it to cloude one drive so that I can share it between 3 macs and 4 windows machines and vms.

An incredible tool that I can't do without.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by DesiLurker » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:13 PM UTC

thfuran wrote: post #151

DesiLurker wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the reason I believe there should be a framework/mechanism for dying companies to open source their works. this way they can continue to live on forever or at least have a way to influence something better.

That doesn't really do anything to address the incentives.

No it doesn't but I am assuming current financial incentives of 90% of failed startups are already fine tuned enough. eventually one of those startups would get it right but what this gets us as a whole is to not reinvent the wheel (or at least take the good parts of the wheel) move to the next stage by building on top of existing infra. Big VCs or accelerators like YC should be creating 'commons' to house freely available works of failed startups to be used by next venture.

the big idea is that after a few such iterations startups will focus on solving the core fundamental issues of the target market rather than build out a bunch of infra. IMO this would reduce capital cost for newer startups in the same field, that should impact the incentives but its subtle.

also, who know if all the work is out in open maybe some new startup would get an idea to put things together in a entirely new way. just imagine if BeOS we opensourced when it went under instead of letting it rot in some server.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Evernote?

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 5:15 PM UTC

temp8964 wrote: post #164

DangerousPie wrote: post #30

Maybe this is just me getting old, but I feel like Evernote has only gotten worse since I started using it over 10 years ago. Back then it was just a list of notes with some formatting and sync capabilities - perfect. These days they have added all these extra features which I don't need, and which have made the whole app slow and terribly clunky. When I use the iPad app it takes several seconds to load notes or sear…

There are comments recommending popular apps like Notion, Joplin, Obsidian, etc. I find hard to trust those apps will last 10, 15, or 20 years. I have switched note-keeping apps a few times in the past and no longer want to do so. That's why I decide I will not use any of those apps. Now I use MediaWiki through docker (with Sqlite database) on my home server. It's lightening fast for my personal use, and comes with t…

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