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Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?

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Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?

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I'm betting on (and contributing to) IPFS [1]. Some friends and I are working on Peergos [2], which is built on top of IPFS to replace dropbox, email and facebook with a P2P secure and private alternative. [1] https://ipfs.io [2] https://peergos.org

The e-mail sign-up button doesn't work properly on the Peergos page. It shows "Page Not Found" error: https://peergos.org/Thank-you.html

Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?

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post #171

I'm betting on (and contributing to) IPFS [1]. Some friends and I are working on Peergos [2], which is built on top of IPFS to replace dropbox, email and facebook with a P2P secure and private alternative. [1] https://ipfs.io [2] https://peergos.org

The e-mail sign-up button doesn't work properly on the Peergos page. It shows "Page Not Found" error: https://peergos.org/Thank-you.html

Thank you for pointing that out. I think we lost the page in the recent website remake. I'll reinstate it. In the meantime the sign up is still working. (I was wondering why people were signing up multiple times with the same email, now it's clear).

Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?

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I don't generate my own power either, the line has to be drawn somewhere.

"Please stop posting our website on HackerNews. It's a cloudy day, and poor Kevin can only pedal his exercise bike so fast."

You're dependant on exercise bike manufacturers. We have to go deeper

Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?

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I contribute to Mastodon, an open-source federated social network based on the OStatus set of W3C standards. Most of my work has been on making the web frontend faster, trying to add the kind of fit-and-finish that proprietary apps like Twitter and Facebook have.

Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?

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What would it take for a new social network to take users off facebook in 2017?

It would have to be something that makes facebook irrelevant. For example: a telepathic group mind meld - where you could interact with other people synchronously or asynchronously.

Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?

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post #171

I'm betting on (and contributing to) IPFS [1]. Some friends and I are working on Peergos [2], which is built on top of IPFS to replace dropbox, email and facebook with a P2P secure and private alternative. [1] https://ipfs.io [2] https://peergos.org

The e-mail sign-up button doesn't work properly on the Peergos page. It shows "Page Not Found" error: https://peergos.org/Thank-you.html

It is fixed now.

Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?

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You might be interested in its spiritual successor neocities, then https://neocities.org/

And the founder of Neocities thinks it's time to instate a distributed web https://blog.neocities.org/blog/2015/09/08/its-time-for-the-...

ok how will neocities or anybody hosting a node be compensated? How will the artists whose works are being distributed in this manner be compensated?

Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?

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What if we don't pay them at all? I don't think we'd miss out on too much. It might even make things better, getting rid of professons like 'youtuber' and article writers who'se main goal is to distribute ads with poor quality content and clickbaits. People interested in sharing what they know will still do it. Wikipedia exists without writers getting paid. Walled garden can still exists, if people value them, they w…

"What if we don't pay them at all?" What if your employer didn't pay you? I'm sorry, but this idea that one shouldn't be allowed to make money being a "youtuber" or anything else just because you don't like it doesn't hold water.

I didn't mean to offend you if you are a content creator or want some content creator to be funded. I just don't think it's much of a technology issue. It's a signal that the content isn't worth the money where walled garden doesn't work.

Also, I think you've misread my comment - I can't see any association between your reply and my comment.

Re: Ask HN: What are we doing about Facebook, Google, and the closed internet?

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post #170

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By making your email something custom instead of @gmail, you're spending some energy, time, and money to protect against a perceived threat. I guess my real question is, what exactly is that threat, how damaging is it, and how likely is it to occur? By my mental math, I can't really justify spending even a few bucks, or more expensively, a few hours, protecting against some consequence that I can't really quantify at…

You can still host your domain on google apps which is simple and painless. The key is that you can take your domain with you and move it wherever you want later on, if you choose to.

exactly, you can protect yourself from a lot of manipulation over time by owning your own domain and always look to build traffic into your personal control, while 3rd parties often offer attractive propositions, the fact that any community built on their platform is not yours to truly 'own' is an issue over time and a risk that is easily mitigated by paying a yearly domain fee.
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