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Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by xboxnolifes »

FireBeyond wrote: post #107
x3cca wrote: post #43

Candidate discovery is absolutely miserable right now. For a lot of people standing out is their resume and their LinkedIn page and the processes that exist just plain aren't getting the right eyes on those. If you're getting recruiters continually its probably less about your qualification (not to downplay them, I'm sure they're lovely) and more about being on a handful of company's candidate and talent banks. Every…

You can also tell how garbage a pipeline ATS screening and other such shit is by the sheer number of positions you see that are advertised for four to six weeks, go off-market only to re-appear 2-3 months later. You know what's even more exhausting for an employer than having to invest energy into the top of your hiring funnel? Having to redo it every few months because an ATS filtered much of the cream off the top a…

I'm not even seeing them taken down for a few weeks. I've been seeing the same job postings for years now from companies who don't even reply.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by xboxnolifes »

I have 2-3 years of professional software experience. I've been unemployed for 4 years, barely able to get a response from employers, let alone interviews, let alone a job. My response rate (even just a rejection email) from applying to jobs has gone from an average of ~35% down to an average of ~18%. Numbers wise, the job market is very frustrating for me.

I apply everywhere in the US, and at this point I consider it a success if I get a rejection email, since that's getting pretty rare. The only recruiters who reach out to me are very clearly shotgun recruiters who have not read my resume and bring positions which are obviously looking for a different type of applicant.

I know I can do the work. Half of my friends work in software or software adjacent roles. I'm at least as capable as them, and, based on how much they have to complain about them, more capable than some of their coworkers.

So, I don't know what the issue is. Clearly I'm not good at marketing myself, but what exactly to change, I'm not sure. I know the 4 year gap looks awful to recruiters, but it's not getting any smaller and I didn't choose it willingly. At this point I'm just mindlessly sending out more resumes, because I don't know what else to do.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by saidnooneever »

i never have weirdness people describe like AI interviews etc

it IS easier to have built up a resume but each time im hired they joke my resume is shit...

this stuff can be really dynamic though as in you can be lucky to run into nice recruiter, live somewhere with more work available, etc. etc.

i dont think its in 1 state, good or bad. it has a lot of dependencies.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by senexes »

idontwantthis wrote: post #18
tayo42 wrote: post #15

You didn't give a lot of info How much are you getting paid? Going into the office is important too, are you in sf?

I'm not in SF. I'm making mid $100k and interviewing for remote jobs in the $170k+ range.

Remote is the big variable.

I am currently employed, remote but not in IT. I have been applying for various jobs the last 6 months because there isn't much growth left for me at my current company. I am a really strong candidate for what I am applying for. If I apply to a local company, I get contacted almost immediately. If I apply for a remote job it is crickets.

I think for remote, you are going to have to be recruited or have a strong network tie because that is the only way to filter the volume of applications. Cold applying is just a waste of your time and energy.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by noprocrasted »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #162

I have 2-3 years of professional software experience. I've been unemployed for 4 years, barely able to get a response from employers, let alone interviews, let alone a job. My response rate (even just a rejection email) from applying to jobs has gone from an average of ~35% down to an average of ~18%. Numbers wise, the job market is very frustrating for me. I apply everywhere in the US, and at this point I consider i…

Lie and ChatGPT your resume to hell. Use those interview cheating tools to pass the bullshit interviews that will be thrown at you.

Your competition is doing it, there is no reason for you not to.

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by noprocrasted »

__turbobrew__ wrote: post #53
newsclues wrote: post #23

It's K shaped, like the economy.

Not sure why you are being downvoted. This is my experience as well. If you have experience at FAANG doing “foundational work” (read: datacenter engineering, core software infrastructure, multi zone computing, point of presence management) you are still in high demand. Many of the people I know in such areas are going to the big hyperscalers to build the infrastructure to run AI inference. There are not a lot of peop…

Do you know how to break into such fields, for someone having experience operating on-prem infra at a smaller scale?

Re: Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

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Post by zingababba »

noprocrasted wrote: post #166
xboxnolifes wrote: post #162

I have 2-3 years of professional software experience. I've been unemployed for 4 years, barely able to get a response from employers, let alone interviews, let alone a job. My response rate (even just a rejection email) from applying to jobs has gone from an average of ~35% down to an average of ~18%. Numbers wise, the job market is very frustrating for me. I apply everywhere in the US, and at this point I consider i…

Lie and ChatGPT your resume to hell. Use those interview cheating tools to pass the bullshit interviews that will be thrown at you. Your competition is doing it, there is no reason for you not to.

Wisepilled response. The state of hiring is completely broken. I started a new position recently and what they told me the position was like vs what I saw/learned after I started were two completely different things. It's like managers don't even know what their own team does.
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