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Ask HN: CS degrees, do they matter again?

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Re: Ask HN: CS degrees, do they matter again?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

WGU course content is a complete joke- I would look negatively on that if I saw it

Well I hope you're not in charge of hiring people.

I’ve known managers who automatically throw out resumes where candidates graduated from Devry or WGU unless they have really impressive work histories.

And this is coming from someone who graduated from a no name state college.

Re: Ask HN: CS degrees, do they matter again?

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I'll say yes. I am the only one in the company that has a degree (MSc compsci). I know stuff the others never heard of. Your exposure to obscure things in uni are really worth the time for deeper topics. I focused on machine learning and had classes like operations research, non-linear optimization or complexity theory & approximation algorithms and I kid you not, I could make use of these things quite a lot to find…

Yes, this is so true. Too many people just want the immediately useful information, but this is not what universities is for! In Uni we should learn things that can be relevant decades later. Not just learn the most modern tools that is currently used in industry. It should be coupled with that too, but not only. The short 2 year educations to learn CS basics are kind of like the fast food of learning. It gets you th…

No people want to get a job so they can make money to exchange for goods and services. First they need to be able to support their addictions to food and shelter.

Companies are looking for people who can immediately improve their bottom lines. Why hire someone out of college with no practical skills when they can hire someone for slightly more that already has practical skills?

Re: Ask HN: CS degrees, do they matter again?

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I think you should ask yourself two related but separate questions: 1. Will the CS degree increase your knowledge and problem-solving ability faster than you could without it? 2. Will the credential add substantially to your credibility for hiring managers? The answer to 1 is mostly about your level of self-discipline and ability to learn independently. If you need the stimulus of a structured environment and a peer…

I take issue with your idea that it is "tier 2+" that are the only programs that are worth it. When you make statements like that, or prognostications of that nature, you have to think about how it actually is in reality and not as the kinds of base opinions that are found in Reddit CS careers subs. I think this varies widely for employers and even within teams of large employers, depending on who is the person doing…

The competitive landscape in 2025 is not like it has ever been before for CS grads - and I graduated in 1996.

It would be “malpractice” to suggest anyone waste time on a CS degree from anything less than tier 2+ school. My degree is from a no name state college so I’m definitely not looking down on anyone.

Re: Ask HN: CS degrees, do they matter again?

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There's a story that goes: A man was tasked with hiring an employee. He got hundreds of resumes. His friend looks at the stack and asks him "how are you going to decide among all those?" The man grabs half the stack, throws it in the garbage and says "Simple, I don't hire unlucky people". Degrees matter when employers don't have the time and/or ability to make a reasonable decision for every candidate. They need ways…

I tried to apply to wgu but got stuck in some bureaucratic hell. Have a degree in an unrelated field. Also have ap credits from 20 years ago. Wgu demands I send them the ap credits but at this point there is basically no way to get them from the college board.

Didn't the AP credits go towards the unrelated degree already? I doubt you can use them twice. If anything you should be able to use whatever course credit they gave you the first time as evidence of completing the course using your transcript from the first degree.

Re: Ask HN: CS degrees, do they matter again?

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I think you should ask yourself two related but separate questions: 1. Will the CS degree increase your knowledge and problem-solving ability faster than you could without it? 2. Will the credential add substantially to your credibility for hiring managers? The answer to 1 is mostly about your level of self-discipline and ability to learn independently. If you need the stimulus of a structured environment and a peer…

I take issue with your idea that it is "tier 2+" that are the only programs that are worth it. When you make statements like that, or prognostications of that nature, you have to think about how it actually is in reality and not as the kinds of base opinions that are found in Reddit CS careers subs. I think this varies widely for employers and even within teams of large employers, depending on who is the person doing…

>Georgia Tech is not the only school that offers such a degree that is equivalent to their in-person program.

This, most state schools in most states offer such degrees now and have years now.

Re: Ask HN: CS degrees, do they matter again?

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As someone who has interviewed candidates for a FANG company in the distant past I can't say that degrees matter, but I can say that people I interviewed with degrees generally did better. There's a hidden bias in that this is only people who got through recruiters and recruiters are their own filter. Strong referrals usually guaranteed a phone screens. I think previous experience at a major competitor in the same ti…

> I personally consider a physics degree to be a top tier signal of programming ability Some CS programs have moved away from heavy maths requirements over the last 2 decades, outside a few maths-heavy specific CS courses. Physics degrees still mean you have very decent maths, but CS degrees are not necessarily as strong a signifier of it. I suspect that is the difference, particularly if you are actually working on…

>Physics degrees still mean you have very decent maths, but CS degrees are not necessarily as strong a signifier of it.

That and they necessarily have to learn a lot of CS just to do their own degree work. It's like wondering why cross country runners perform well at other sports too, their sport incorporates the 'hard' part of most sports, the running and endurance aspects.

Re: Ask HN: CS degrees, do they matter again?

#168
> Does it matter?

Yes.

> online CS degree.

No.

Most of the value of a degree is the connections you build and get opportunities through. You're not going to get much better at software development.

You'll learn some core CS/math concepts that can help later if you want to get into niche roles though. But that's not something most people benefit from, by definition of 'niche'.

Re: Ask HN: CS degrees, do they matter again?

#169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried to apply to wgu but got stuck in some bureaucratic hell. Have a degree in an unrelated field. Also have ap credits from 20 years ago. Wgu demands I send them the ap credits but at this point there is basically no way to get them from the college board.

Didn't the AP credits go towards the unrelated degree already? I doubt you can use them twice. If anything you should be able to use whatever course credit they gave you the first time as evidence of completing the course using your transcript from the first degree.

Wgu asked for my college transcript which listed the ap courses. After I sent them the transcript they asked for the ap scores.

Telling them they are 20+ years old, I have no way of getting them, and I am fine retaking the courses led absolutely no where.

Re: Ask HN: CS degrees, do they matter again?

#170

There's a story that goes: A man was tasked with hiring an employee. He got hundreds of resumes. His friend looks at the stack and asks him "how are you going to decide among all those?" The man grabs half the stack, throws it in the garbage and says "Simple, I don't hire unlucky people". Degrees matter when employers don't have the time and/or ability to make a reasonable decision for every candidate. They need ways…

> They need ways to eliminate chunks of the applications. Illogical ways of eliminating candidates are acceptable because they are better than having no way And this is how Apple/Google end up rejecting candidates to work on open source libraries...despite the candidates being the very authors they are wed out as they haven't spent months preparing for the interview.

Google and Apple don't have degree requirements, there are many of us working there as engineers without any college, much less a CS degree.
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