There must be a successor, right?
There's an app called Wappler that was developed by the same folks from DMXzone, which was quite well-known for its Dreamweaver add-ons at the time. It's the closer you will find of a direct successor.
Ask HN: Is anyone still using Dreamweaver?
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#162Re: Ask HN: Is anyone still using Dreamweaver?
#163I started with Dreamweaver in 2001/2002.[1] In between, I used Utradev for a while. However, I gave up Dreamweaver soon enough for TextPad as I used to write a lot more ActionScript; one editor for all was easier for me - so, HTML, CSS and JavaScript all in TextPad.
Then, I used a combination of Coda and BBEdit for a while. I remember writing the Sass.Mode for Coda, which was later taken over by Panic and included as part of Coda 2.[2]
Edit: Now I remember why the change. I moved to a Mac ecosystem from Windows in 2006.
By then, I had already moved on to Sublime Text around 2008/2009/2010. I don’t code much these days, but Sublime Text is still my go-to for its speed and the ability to open large codebases or an entire drive and let me edit things around.
Dreamweaver was a good dream. I’m going to spend the next 10-20 years learning Vim slowly and making it my retirement IDE.
1. https://brajeshwar.com/2002/dmx-inc-files/
2. https://brajeshwar.com/2012/coda-2-comes-built-in-with-sass-...
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#164I miss AOL Press! It was really phenomenal software.
In a related not I still can't believe putting tags in ALL CAPS didn't win the style war.
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#165I do!!!!!! I love dreamwaver even today, I'm surprised people don't use it, they have done an amazing job keeping it up to date - it's honestly a joy to use. Granted: I'm not a real dev/swe, just a dude who likes to mess around with webtech, still, I think "real devs" would enjoy it too, it's great to use. I learn web on dreamweaver, I would make something on the front end WYSIWYG editor, and then "turn it around" (I…
DHTML! Gosh just hearing that term takes me back. I think AJAX killed DHTML. I'm not sure what killed AJAX. Async/await? React?
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#167I like dreamweaver. But I could still code html by hand with HotDogPro. The one that I really miss is Macromedia Fireworks. The perfect mix between vector editor + html editor + OOP. And to think that it did all of that in the metadata of a binary format (png). Nothing has come close.
If you hadn't post this comment, I would have. Fireworks could have been Figma, it could have been the default platform every designer used. But Adobe didn't understand it, they saw it as a weird Photoshop competitor and shelved it. The last few versions bundled with CS were clearly neglected maintenance releases. I finally stopped using my slowing rotting copy in about 2014 when I got a Mac with a retina screen and…
Fireworks came with the Macromedia Studio MX 2004 suite (I had the education version -- ~$299 was the happy medium for me between full price and pirating). While I made great use of Flash and Dreamweaver in that bundle, Fireworks was always an enigma. I think it exported some animated gifs for me. What did y'all make with it?
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#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it was Microsoft FrontPage that had the most undigestible output at the time. A mess of tables, inline styles, Internet Explorer-specific tricks, plus a reliance on FrontPage Server Extensions for full functionality. Adobe still had GoLive at the time, which was basically what Dreamweaver is now, and it didn't mangle the output as much, neither did Netscape Composer (which was way more limited). Many of the s…
FrontPage was indeed terrible, it caused me to make an even worse decision in the 1990’s—-make websites almost entirely out of image maps, and then eventually that terrible idea evolved into the classic terrible approach to early ‘00’s web frontends (bum bum bum): Macromedia Flash and Actionscript (the latter of which I actually remember fondly, although I may just be remembering it with rose-tinted glasses). Edit: c…
Yeah, arguably that was the mindset out of which David Siegel's book _Killer Web Sites_:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/567790.Creating_Killer_W...
grew out of.
Note the follow-up article: "The Web is Ruined and I Ruined It"
Re: Ask HN: Is anyone still using Dreamweaver?
#169I like dreamweaver. But I could still code html by hand with HotDogPro. The one that I really miss is Macromedia Fireworks. The perfect mix between vector editor + html editor + OOP. And to think that it did all of that in the metadata of a binary format (png). Nothing has come close.
HotDogPro changed my life as a kid and was a big part in my learning to code and understand the web, files and creativity.
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#170Ah, the nostalgia. Dreamweaver was pivotal for me in my early teens to be able to copy other sites code to see how things were built out and learn HTML + CSS.
If I remember correctly, it was really the only way to go to make image maps when those were a thing.