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Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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post #148

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Its true in the US; its mandated by law that they comply.

Wait. Really? I had no idea this is true. You're saying there's a US law that means replying STOP is intercepted by verizon/T-mobile/etc. and the sender never has to see it?

While it's true that they must comply with the STOP message, I'm not finding any proof that it must be intercepted before reaching the business.

https://www.cullenllp.com/blog/fcc-adopts-new-tcpa-opt-out-r...

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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Beware the edge case: I responded STOP to a message years ago, then was unable to receive SMS from a popular money transmission app during the signup flow to claim funds that a friend sent me. After over a month of troubleshooting, it turns out that I had sent "STOP" to that number years ago on a different device (no longer visible in chat history) and now had to send "UNSTOP" in order to receive the phone verificati…

I find it such a weird thing, maybe it's nice in some cases, but really this is a weird mechanism.

Phone numbers are exchanged a lot and repurposed. Most providers/carriers will likely have a do-not-use-for-x-amount-of-time bin to put newly reclaimed numbers in, but after a while, it will always be re-used. hence this kind of issue can happen.

In my country there's a place to register to disallow unsolicited marketing and other types of messaging. That's not by number you 'STOP' and hence it won't have such effects. A marketeer/sales company is simply not allowed by law to dial your number for sales/marketing, so they have auto-lookups to that registry to prevent breaching the law. translated, it's the 'do-not-call-me-registry' :D aptly named.

it won't stop phishing messages etc., but not much will. if you'd block it from 1 number, they will just use the next number..

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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I’m not Left Wing. I’m certainly not right wing. However the latest trend for the Kamala campaign has in my case decided to follow the technical details of stop but not the intended scenario. I got a text message from the campaign fundraiser and clicked stop. Next day same time. Same first 6 digits different last 4. I hate politics. I’m not going to vote based off of a text.

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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post #108

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For which countries is this true?

Definitely not France. The STOP message is ignored. They also created a global “block” list that you can subscribe to. This list is handled by an advertising company…

French mobile networks are having a bit of a clampdown at the moment. My employer sends SMS to France and they've been absolutely on the warpath if they think you're not respecting STOP and CONTACT messages.

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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Beware the edge case: I responded STOP to a message years ago, then was unable to receive SMS from a popular money transmission app during the signup flow to claim funds that a friend sent me. After over a month of troubleshooting, it turns out that I had sent "STOP" to that number years ago on a different device (no longer visible in chat history) and now had to send "UNSTOP" in order to receive the phone verificati…

Just wanted to say that I find it curious that you have to text “UNSTOP” and not something like “START”, lol

So a "stopper" can also mean a plug (i.e., something you shove into the neck of a bottle or a pipe to stop things coming out). "Stop" can also then be a verb which means, "put a stopper into"; and "unstop" can mean "remove the stopper from".

Since (it sounds like) this is talking about blocking and unblocking the flow of messages from that number, using "UNSTOP" (remove the thing blocking it) makes more sense than "START"; particularly as the latter seems to imply that you're asking to immediately begin receiving messages, whereas the former simply means to no longer block the messages.

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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Beware the edge case: I responded STOP to a message years ago, then was unable to receive SMS from a popular money transmission app during the signup flow to claim funds that a friend sent me. After over a month of troubleshooting, it turns out that I had sent "STOP" to that number years ago on a different device (no longer visible in chat history) and now had to send "UNSTOP" in order to receive the phone verificati…

Wouldn't that also apply if you blocked the number?

That only works if the marketing campaign exclusively uses the number you're blocking. In some cases - for example, political SMS in the US - it turns into whack-a-mole unless you unsubscribe properly.

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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It kinda depends on which platform handles their bulk messages. For example, if they are messaging you through Twilio, replying with "STOP" will cause Twilio itself to opt you out of messages ( https://help.twilio.com/articles/223134027-Twilio-support-fo... ), and the sender can't disable that ( https://help.twilio.com/articles/360034798533-Getting-Starte... ). It's kinda like how Mailchimp handles unsubscriptions fo…

Unsubscribing from one Mailchimp subscription doesn't remove you from any other subscriptions...

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it necessary to give them your number if you do a donation? It seems many here have the same negative experiences. Is it an optional field? If not one could practically enter any digits or can one get punished for that?

Actblue requires a phone number and email address. As far as I know, physically mailing a check is the best way to avoid sharing information as you only need to provide your name, address, and employer. This information is the only federally required information.

What would happen if you type in a pseudo email and number?

What would happen if you type in a number of somebody else?

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