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Ask HN: Have you ever heard of users demonstrating against software?
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#162Old school RuneScape is an mmorpg where each game update goes to a vote, and if it doesn’t get 75% approval the updates are not worked on by devs and don’t get released. The community feels a strong ownership and connection over the game. So much so that when the development company (Jagex) makes a wrong decision, it’s common for users to “riot” in game. They go to a specific world, at a specific town, place down spe…
Having been part of multiple gaming communities where the game was destroyed by the developers with updates the community told them would not work, were bad for the gameplay or just plain out of scope (not wrt to monetization, just gameplay elements or mechanics) and them pushing on, mostly either ridiculing, ignoring or even insulting said players, this sounds like a dream.
Results were basically the same. The death of 90% of the enthusiast community in mere months.
Re: Ask HN: Have you ever heard of users demonstrating against software?
#163It can happen in countries where life is very peaceful, people have a lot of time, and where people are so accustomed to be in their comfort zone that any change feels like a danger to them.
Just my 2 cents as I may be wrong here :)
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#164> Have this ever happen in history before? How bad can something be that users go out in the street to demostrate? We used to have this in Ukraine but the war successfully halted all the strikes. To tell shortly, any shop which sells anything must report on any buying to the authority. This is kinda stupid because if you are selling something on weight, you need to jongle with too many devices: a weight-meter to weig…
This seems like a horribly-implemented tax enforcement system? France has something similar in NF525, but it's nowhere near as intrusive. Hopefully somewhere along the reconstruction there is time to improve this system.
Re: Ask HN: Have you ever heard of users demonstrating against software?
#165> Have this ever happen in history before? How bad can something be that users go out in the street to demostrate? We used to have this in Ukraine but the war successfully halted all the strikes. To tell shortly, any shop which sells anything must report on any buying to the authority. This is kinda stupid because if you are selling something on weight, you need to jongle with too many devices: a weight-meter to weig…
This seems like a horribly-implemented tax enforcement system? France has something similar in NF525, but it's nowhere near as intrusive. Hopefully somewhere along the reconstruction there is time to improve this system.
Software registrar of settlement operations do not make my taxes to grow (buying laptops and internet connection is not a tax because it is possible to use nothing except of one smartphone for everything). So, I would call it a surveillance enforcement.
My opinion is that we the people used to allow a lot of misrights to us: firstly by using a lot of proprietary software which turns to smartphonisation of everything under the rule of Google/Apple; then by eating with pleasure all the covid restrictions; this is just another step at tightening up the bolts. Kind of notoriously "Patriot Act" in US: nobody would agree with it before 9/11, and nobody wants it today - but nobody used to have enough balls to protest it immediately after 9/11 when the emotion level was hysterically high.
Re: Ask HN: Have you ever heard of users demonstrating against software?
#166Old school RuneScape is an mmorpg where each game update goes to a vote, and if it doesn’t get 75% approval the updates are not worked on by devs and don’t get released. The community feels a strong ownership and connection over the game. So much so that when the development company (Jagex) makes a wrong decision, it’s common for users to “riot” in game. They go to a specific world, at a specific town, place down spe…
Having been part of multiple gaming communities where the game was destroyed by the developers with updates the community told them would not work, were bad for the gameplay or just plain out of scope (not wrt to monetization, just gameplay elements or mechanics) and them pushing on, mostly either ridiculing, ignoring or even insulting said players, this sounds like a dream. Results were basically the same. The death…
Sounds very familiar.
Re: Ask HN: Have you ever heard of users demonstrating against software?
#167I've not seen anything as extreme as people in the streets, but regularly have seen employee pushback about erp system implementations, e.g. SAP. These enterprise systems are are all on the back of employees, by which I mean they are forced to take the extra time to use them while they are extremely unfriendly to the user - because they are bought by execs, and their value is not at all apparent to those who use then…
My significant other spends the last hour of her day just recapitulating and filling timesheets. Nothing else. I eat the bad moods this brings every day. What a waste, 4 different stakeholders need their own timesheets filled EXCEPT for her actual direct boss. Yes, she works for TCS, how did you know?
Until the last sentence I was thinking “go build em a saas!”
Re: Ask HN: Have you ever heard of users demonstrating against software?
#168I've not seen anything as extreme as people in the streets, but regularly have seen employee pushback about erp system implementations, e.g. SAP. These enterprise systems are are all on the back of employees, by which I mean they are forced to take the extra time to use them while they are extremely unfriendly to the user - because they are bought by execs, and their value is not at all apparent to those who use then…
> imagine you told employees they now had to log their time and account for each 15 minutes You don't need to imagine, this is becoming (if it is not already) the norm for salaried employees. Maybe not to the 15 minutes, but hourly accounting is very widespread. That said, the joke is on the c-suite in this case - almost everyone makes it up, or at least guestimates heavily.
The log yer time jobs are definitely the worst. It is no longer engineering or team work but “how can I log as little time on this and move it along”. Whenever I refactored or took time to do something properly I would regret it because I get taken to task for the time it took. So fuck that. Will never enter a time
again! Fire me
if you have to.
Re: Ask HN: Have you ever heard of users demonstrating against software?
#169I’m surprised I haven’t seen this further up. I suppose it might be because it’s less perceived as software but, there were definitely protests against Uber.
Not only was Uber protested against, in some places successfully, but there were pro Uber protests as well.
Also as a somewhat funny anecdote, it wasn’t a protest as you describe, with people on the street but my aunt told me how a few years back there was an upgrade for the OS at the place she worked at. We’re talking completely non technical boomers having to switch from Windows 98 to Windows 7 or something like that. They were pissed! They were arguing with the boss about it, complaining non stop, saying how they don’t understand anything anymore and pretty much did an informal go slow for a few months.
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#170The Australia Card. This was a unique identifier for residents of Australia, for which the legislation did not proceed after nationwide protests. Protests marches featured depictions of government ministers in Nazi Gestapo dress, a reference to a government minister's agreement with a question asking if Australians might choose to tattoo the number on their wrists. The government refused to bend. The public reaction…
The TFN is a unique number for every adult pretty much