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Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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I've found it easy to stop a great deal of such behaviors by examining not what they promise to deliver, but what they actually brought. I.e. don't look forward, look backward when making decisions. Alcohol promises a great time. Alcohol delivers a hangover and regrets. Junk food promises a great time. Junk food delivers poor health and regrets. Going to the gym promises hardship and struggle. It delivers health. I'v…

>Alcohol promises a great time. Alcohol delivers a hangover and regrets. One beer? Also Alco often delivers crazy social interactions that may be very desired >Reading a book promises struggling and boredom. It delivers wisdom and inspiration. I've never once regretted it. I wish, a lot of books that ive read were mostly waste of time e.g dragon book

Can't speak for everyone, but after one beer I am done. It's funny the first 20 minutes, then a certain numbness covers my brain.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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Bro, I feel you. I used to be in the same space.

For me it was about lifestyle changes, and displacing “fun” and cravings, with things that were more fun and more rewarding. And some hard reflection, and planning.

I think in my path to recovery there were a whole load of little steps and changes.

I found - and meticulously nurtured - passions outside of drinking. This led me to get healthier and fitter, and then I started to take pride in my health - I displaced chippies with vegetables, and guess what, my cravings naturally changed with time. The food tangent is related, I knew alcohol was high in calorific value, but the extent this played on me physically was noticeable. So, health suddenly became a hugely attainable goal for me.

I bought a smart watch and this tracked my heart rate. I saw a significant difference in my rate when drinking, and especially while sleeping with alcohol in my system.

I was partially drawn to alcohol due to stress relief, however seeing the impact this had on me mentally and physically I realised that my net anxiety was actually increased as a result.

Now, on to you. Forgive yourself when you do stuff up. Easier said than done. What you are doing is not easy, but please don’t be hard on yourself. You are self-aware, and you are trying.. that is amazing!

Maybe do schedule a few drinks sometimes. Maybe instead of 12 shit beers that are cheap, treat yourself to two expensive beers that are exquisite. Make this a positive experience, planned and controlled.

Try planning ahead. When do you crack in to 12 beers. Have a week plan. Book stuff in in advance. My approach became booking in to gym classes (because then I have to go - and guess what, after 6 weeks I wanted to go more than anything else… thank the dopamine and fitness level achievements)

Identify your triggers. You are looking at your transgressions after the train wreck of a binge sesh. But triggers that lead you to this moment arise before you even decide to buy a twelve pack of beer. Work out what these triggers are, why they are happening, and how you can improve.

Best of luck on your journey. Please post a couple of updates so we can all know how you are getting along :)

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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It might sound terribly old-fashioned, but I think there is something to be said about "moderation". Why does it have to be either binge-drinking and having a hangover the next day or abstaining from alcohol completely? I drink on average about 3-4 bottles of beer and the occasional glass of wine over a week, and I was never "really" drunk (to the point of losing control or forgetting what happened) my whole life. Yes, maybe the alcohol has a negative effect even at relatively small doses, but so do other things that are far less enjoyable (e.g. the fumes from the cars passing by my office window).

EDIT: I realize that when you have a drinking problem where drinking one beer inevitably leads to drinking x more, it's probably easier to stop completely. I guess I was just reacting to the feeling of guilt - I'm not sure hating yourself for not being "strong" enough is helpful in this situation. Of course getting comfortable with what you are currently doing isn't good advice either...

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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I've cut back by switching to non-alcohol beer. I've found that I enjoy the taste of beer, but I don't enjoy how shitty alcohol makes me feel. NA beer tends to solve that for me. Lots of good options coming out. * Just the Hazy by Sam Adams is top tier. * Athletic brewing is solely NA beer - lots of different varieties. * Heineken 0.0 is great * O'Douls amber is surprisingly passable as well I suspect the options wil…

Second the Heineken, definitely recommend trying Guiness's NA stout, I think it's actually quite good.

There's an alcohol free wine called Fre. It tastes mostly like a dry grape juice, but it's fairly sippable.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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I've been through this. Took ages to turn it around. I still have activities that i used to drink with that i have that compulsion to have 'a couple' which in the past would inevitably turn into lots. Like playing pool, watching football, bbq's and such. I used to wonder what the point of alcohol free booze was, but its really filling that gap for me. Where by habit (or long term addiction i guess) i want to be drinking whilst doing some activities, now i have alcohol free...have a couple and that ticks that box. Around others who are mega drinking is a bit of an issue, but i try and just escape those situations. best of luck

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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Having an accountability partner helps, maybe your spouse or somebody that you drink with regularly.

Also reaffirm this by telling your friends and family your intention to stop drinking. It helps if they don't keep getting you to drink.

Lastly, what works for me is also realising that I don't need to drink to have a good time out. I can meet friends who drink at bars but they can drink while I sip my fruit juice.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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Develop an exercise routine. I hated the feeling of running or working out hung over and used that as motivation to not drink. Would rather feel good working out and feel good after the work out.

I agree with this, my alcohol consumption has really tailed off after I started training for a marathon. It is impossible for me to actually train hungover and the required amount of training just so you can finish is 4-5x a week.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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Be aware that this behave already qualifies to alcoholism according to health professionals. Even if the downsides are not as devastating as some of the stereotypical pictures we all know perhaps you should take into consideration taking an affirmative drastic action or even consult a physician.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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I had this exact same feeling for years. There’s a ton of pressure to drink through society and marketing. Drink to celebrate. Drink when you’re commiserating. When you step back you realise that actually it isn’t needed. When you stop a couple of things happen. The first is that you have a bunch more time from not drinking itself but also not having to recover. The second thing is realising quite how dependent society is on alcohol. Can you imagine any event without it? So you go through a phase of adjusting to a society that is dependent. Like you I tried and failed to give up when that was my goal. What worked in the end was taking a break from it with no end and so removing the pressure of giving up. The break in itself is better than no break só celebrate that. If it lasts even better. It’s been more than 10 years since I drank and I can’t imagine going back. I don’t see any of the benefits. It just feels like something we’re indoctrinated into and when you look in from outside you realise how bizarre it is that so much of society is based around it. People are so indoctrinated that they get upset when you don’t drink with them, or think you’re strange because you don’t. Never trust a man that doesn’t drink is something you’ve probably heard. The alcohol industry has a very strong interest in you and everyone else drinking and coercing each other. That’s what all the adverts of happiness around alcohol are about. Reinforcement. Life is so much better without. Dancing when you’re sober is quite hard though.

Re: Ask HN: How did you stop drinking?

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I've found it easy to stop a great deal of such behaviors by examining not what they promise to deliver, but what they actually brought. I.e. don't look forward, look backward when making decisions. Alcohol promises a great time. Alcohol delivers a hangover and regrets. Junk food promises a great time. Junk food delivers poor health and regrets. Going to the gym promises hardship and struggle. It delivers health. I'v…

Good advice, because that's what I did recently, for alcohol at least.

I'm not sure if it is a result of getting older, change in diet and it doesn't really matter. I like a good wine, beer, whiskey or rum, but in the last six months I started notice that I don't sleep very well after drinking. I can have one or two beer or one glass of wine, but not much more. After that it starts to interfer with my sleep, costing me hours of sleep. Given the choice I'd always put a good nights sleep before a cozy evening with wine. I could just have the one drink, but to me at least, it's simply easier to just not drink at all.

If you're in a settings where you're almost expected to have a drink, you can just use my reasoning, that you don't sleep well after drink alcohol, it's honestly something most people seem to understand.

Small note on the: "just hating yourself when you fail" that's not productive. Recognize that you failed, that it's okay to fail, and examine why. Then start over and try to learn from you mistake. E.g. maybe don't have alcohol in the house, replace it with something else, for me its tea and sparkling water. (Having a replacement beverage for the time when I'd just relax and normally have a drink have helped a lot)

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