Agreed, I actually find bookmarklets quite useful... You can have it run custom javscript snippets... and I like them better than extensions.
I came here to post this exact thing, love bookmarklets.
Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?
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Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?
#162I don't know about Chrome, but in Firefox: Chrome now hides the bookmark bar by default Not sure if it is the default, but my Firefox bookmark bar is always visible load common favorite news sites & blogs or load a window with all my productivity SaaS sites. Shift+Click on a bookmark folder does that pick up where i left off on a research rabbit hole Right-Click on one of the open tabs, click "select all tabs", right…
For Firefox bookmarks: please look here for the query: https://github.com/IvoLimmen/mystart/blob/master/bookmarkimp...
Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
And if the user is wanting to visit something like Ford.com, Google can charge Ford millions over time to be the first result, pitting them in a bidding war against Chevy for the top result (with tiny ad disclaimer) for a search for "Ford".
> And if the user is wanting to visit something like Ford.com, Google can charge Ford millions over time to be the first result, pitting them in a bidding war against Chevy for the top result (with tiny ad disclaimer) for a search for "Ford". That’s not how it works. If you own the website Ford.com, Google won’t charge you millions to bid on the keyword "Ford". They _will_ do it if you are Chevy and are bidding on Fo…
Apparently it is how it works if you go by Basecamp's words
https://twitter.com/jasonfried/status/1168986962704982016
I'm making an assumption we're all talking about the ads above the results, as afaik you can't pay to shuffle the real results
Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?
#164Actually, with Firefox you can do all of them (will write a list because I'm tight on time, sorry).
> i want to be able to quickly load common favorite news sites & blogs.
Put them to a bookmark folder and click "Open all in tabs".
> or load a window with all my productivity SaaS sites.
Again, same. Stuff bookmarks to a folder, "Open all in tabs".
> or pick up where i left off on a research rabbit hole.
Restore your previous session in Firefox or use "Tab Session Manager" plugin.
> and i want it to be intuitive, efficient, and a prominent UX feature set.
Which can be done.
Ask your specific questions as a reply, and I'll answer ASAP.
Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?
#165Firefox on Android seems to have just given up on bookmarks. You can't even EDIT THEM (seriously) let alone order them in folders or pin them etc. Open, edit or share, that's it, and the last of which I think perhaps three people have ever done, and only by accident.
editing and creating bookmarks, as well as organising them into folders, as well as opening multiple bookmarks/folders simultaneously and bookmarking multiple tabs at the same time all work fine for me on Firefox on Android
Weird. I have a single "Bookmarks" menu item. Opening that shows them. I can tap to open, or "X" to delete. Long-press to select (multiple) which reveals a share icon and a triple-dot with open, open in private or delete. That's it. There is no edit or move operation.
(I noticed adding to a folder appends, and for a while was carefully shuffling between folders to sort, then realized they'd given up on bookmarks so I should too.)
Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?
#166I don't know about Chrome, but in Firefox: Chrome now hides the bookmark bar by default Not sure if it is the default, but my Firefox bookmark bar is always visible load common favorite news sites & blogs or load a window with all my productivity SaaS sites. Shift+Click on a bookmark folder does that pick up where i left off on a research rabbit hole Right-Click on one of the open tabs, click "select all tabs", right…
tab stash is a pretty decent extension for quickly saving tabs and then restoring them later with one click https://github.com/josh-berry/tab-stash and unlike some other tab management extensions, it uses native bookmarks to store things which means you can still access the stashed tabs if you sync them to firefox mobile
I like the idea of stashing tabs for later. But doesn't saving to bookmarks remove the History of the tab in the process?
That's what I think we need is a way to save the whole session of the tab. Not just the last page. Or maybe a way to graph multidimensional browsing history.
Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?
#167What you want is not what "bookmarks" are.
You're asking for a combination of bookmarks+start page+history. You can have all of those things, and it's probably not too difficult to build an extension which provides the cohesive system.
The data is already in your browser. The challenge will be deciding exactly what you want and what the UI should be.
Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?
#168I thought it was a commonly held thought that Google didn't want Chrome users using bookmarks because it directly competed with their search (and advertising).
Vertical screen space was very precious when Chrome came out. I remember their first feature over Firefox was moving tabs into the title bar and removing the menu bar, bookmark bar and bottom status bar, so saving about four bars of space for page contents. Since launch, they've reduced the vertical space of the tab bar/title bar, even as screens gained more pixels. Original design- https://www.google.com/googlebooks…
Ironically, Chrome still wastes slightly more vertical space than an appropriately configured Internet Explorer did.
Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?
#169I run a remote 'home page' that lets me add/remove links via a web-form (it's written in PHP). I have this home page set on all my machines/browsers. That was I'm in total control of my 'bookmarks', and their are not trapped on a particular machine or inside a proprietary sync system.
I used to use Shaarli (https://shaarli.readthedocs.io) to accomplish sort of the same thing that you described. And, shaarli worked great for me *for years*! But then, when i delayed migrating from my VPS (where i self-hosted shaarli, and needed badly to update version of ubuntu on the VPS) and i failed to upgrade to a newer version of shaarli, i sort of got myself stuck, and never set it up again on my new VPS...sure, i still have all the bookmarks (they're just saved in plain text within php easy to get), and you know what? I sort of abandoned all those bookmarks from my legacy shaarli setup, and have never once needed to look up a bookmark! Meaning, i guess i was saving these things for pretty much little/no reason, so i never set up shaarli again. This is by no means an issue of shaarli. Its simply that i came to a realization like folks going through digital minimalism must feel, that "hey, i guess i don't need X after all".
Lately i have the need to save a couple of bookmarks again (though only a few)...so instead of using shaarli, i just saved them within firefox and set up the firefox account syncing, and it seems good enough for my needs. But, going back to my original point, yeah shaarli fit my need quite weel as far as saving remote bookmarks. If you ever don't want to maintain your own php setup, i encourage you to take a look at shaarli; really fast, stable, crazy low on resoiurces...all around great utility!
Re: Ask HN: Why are bookmarks second class citizens in browsers?
#170Actually, with Firefox you can do all of them (will write a list because I'm tight on time, sorry). > i want to be able to quickly load common favorite news sites & blogs. Put them to a bookmark folder and click "Open all in tabs". > or load a window with all my productivity SaaS sites. Again, same. Stuff bookmarks to a folder, "Open all in tabs". > or pick up where i left off on a research rabbit hole. Restore your…
> click "Open all in tabs"
Or middle-click, or ctrl+click, or shift+click on the folder. (The latter will open them in a new window rather)