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Re: Ask HN: Does Anyone else working in a crypto company feel this is all a scam?

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Post by perfffay »

zeppers wrote: post #147

You are posting this question into what is mostly an anti-crypto echo chamber. It's a bit like asking "is the internet just a big scam" in 1998 at a magazine and newspaper trade conference. The people here are too engrossed in the world they built and lack the imagination for how it could be completely transformed to offer you an objective answer. My opinion is that 98% of crypto is either a scam or just bad ideas th…

Crypto has been around since 2009. It's been 13 years of bullshit. Because Andreessen is behind the web3 scam a lot of people are in... FOR THE MONEY. Let me guess none of you would be involved in this if it wasn't for $$$. As soon as crypto becomes the Enron/Madoff of the 2020s this cough 'technology' will disappear.

Re: Ask HN: Does Anyone else working in a crypto company feel this is all a scam?

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Post by piva00 »

jlcoff wrote: post #126
piva00 wrote: post #112

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> When you are subprime rated, you would have to be a complete moron to take a variable loan on you life. And loads of people were that moronic, do they really deserve to have suffered because some other people wanted to profit as much as possible from their stupidity? It's not like these morons had the tools to really assess what the fuck they were doing. Not excluding the fact that many of these loans were basicall…

> ...humanity is not there yet. Especially with the dogmatic left at the helm.

What does this even mean?

Catchphrases don't foster discussion, don't be on the thought-terminating camp, pretty idiotic reply to be honest.

Re: Ask HN: Does Anyone else working in a crypto company feel this is all a scam?

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Post by piva00 »

jlcoff wrote: post #155
cormacrelf wrote: post #114

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This thread is a horror show that is pretty hard to watch, and I knew it would be, but I think it’s worth it. But if you we’re wondering what the rich asshole tree vandals were doing earlier in life, this is it.

If you think it's an horror show, you're pretty frail... Toughen up, cupcake.

Ad hominems are frowned upon around here, just so you know...

Re: Ask HN: Does Anyone else working in a crypto company feel this is all a scam?

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Post by jlcoff »

fizzledbits wrote: post #156
jlcoff wrote: post #153

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Your point being ? I've already been called Nazi, mysogynist, racist, baby killer, pure evil here (on other now-banned accounts). Do you think "sociopath" is gonna affect me the least ? For anything it actually strengthen my no-fuck-given stance.

That’s the spirit

That your remarks are counter-productive ? Congrats, you've leveled up at being useless !

Re: Ask HN: Does Anyone else working in a crypto company feel this is all a scam?

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Post by jlcoff »

piva00 wrote: post #163
jlcoff wrote: post #155

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If you think it's an horror show, you're pretty frail... Toughen up, cupcake.

Ad hominems are frowned upon around here, just so you know...

No, only ad-hominem against people carrying the Gospel are frowned upon. There has been plenty of ad-hominem against me and I don't see you condemning those.

Re: Ask HN: Does Anyone else working in a crypto company feel this is all a scam?

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Post by jlcoff »

piva00 wrote: post #162
jlcoff wrote: post #126

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> ...humanity is not there yet. Especially with the dogmatic left at the helm.

What does this even mean? Catchphrases don't foster discussion, don't be on the thought-terminating camp, pretty idiotic reply to be honest.

The current mainstream [radical] left Gospel meets the definition of dogma, as in, they are just as bad as the darkest religion they themselves condemn. Not very difficult to understand.

Re: Ask HN: Does Anyone else working in a crypto company feel this is all a scam?

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Post by jlcoff »

googlerx wrote: post #138
jlcoff wrote: post #87

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> (2) You cannot explain away 2008 as being the fault of the people who couldn't pay their mortgage. WTAF dude. When you are subprime rated, you would have to be a complete moron to take a variable loan on you life. But sure, poor them, it's not their fault, it's the mean evil banker who gave them a tool to shoot themselves with ... That the difference between you and me. I'm gonna give people the freedom to shoot th…

You might have a point if the only negative outcome of 2008 was that a lot of people lost homes they could never afford. It was the banks' and regulators' responsibility to not allow bad loans to be issued and resold as mis-labeled AAA investment vehicles. That is the part that broke the global economy.

NO, it's not the job of the government to save people from shooting themselves.

Re: Ask HN: Does Anyone else working in a crypto company feel this is all a scam?

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Post by piva00 »

jlcoff wrote: post #166
piva00 wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does this even mean? Catchphrases don't foster discussion, don't be on the thought-terminating camp, pretty idiotic reply to be honest.

The current mainstream [radical] left Gospel meets the definition of dogma, as in, they are just as bad as the darkest religion they themselves condemn. Not very difficult to understand.

No, it really is difficult to understand given that you are using circular logic to justify something.

I don't know what you refer by the Gospel of the left, and from there I can't figure out what exactly you are attacking.

What is even "radical left" to you? These are such non-specific terms that just got even less defined with this whole culture wars shit.

I don't know what you are talking about and you haven't exposed anything that I can talk about, just empty platitudes and terms that actually mean nothing...

Re: Ask HN: Does Anyone else working in a crypto company feel this is all a scam?

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Post by cinntaile »

jlcoff wrote: post #74
cinntaile wrote: post #13

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I don't get how you can work with something that you perceive as a scam? So when you tell your friends or your parents you say "yeah, I rip people off for a living. Haha"?

I build tools other people are free to use. I have historically refused to implement tools to be used for censorship purpose. Here, you're free to invest/yolo.. or not.

You're free to invest sure, but I assume it doesn't say that the guy who programmed it thinks it's a scam in big fat red letters?

I assume you think it's morally wrong to censor and that's why you don't want to build these tools. But how does it differ from thinking it's morally wrong to scam people? Is there some level of degree difference here?

Re: Ask HN: Does Anyone else working in a crypto company feel this is all a scam?

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Post by piva00 »

jlcoff wrote: post #165
piva00 wrote: post #163

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Ad hominems are frowned upon around here, just so you know...

No, only ad-hominem against people carrying the Gospel are frowned upon. There has been plenty of ad-hominem against me and I don't see you condemning those.

I believe that HN is very far from left-wing, not sure why you feel singled out, ad hominems are frowned upon anyone here, call them out and move on.

This defensiveness is really off putting, it seems like the only argument you can carry is "the left has a Gospel and I'm against it" and I still have absolute no idea what exactly you refer to and why you are against whatever you are referring to.

You just feel victimised and attacked for some reason.

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