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Ask HN: Why is machine learning easier to learn than basic social skills?

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Re: Ask HN: Why is machine learning easier to learn than basic social skills?

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None of the answers I see writes about the main currency of social people: looks. Go to the gym and get to the top 50 percentile of people there (be able to do 15 pull ups, 40 push ups). When you get older this will get much harder, so use your youth to maximize your genetic potential. It will be boring, but most people do boring stuff all their lives. There are of course other aspects of looks as well, try to get in…

This is good advice. You will like to get the “oh, I didn’t think you’d be a developer” comment, just from your looks.

Also once you’ve been to the gym for some months the tone will never really go away if you do some physical activity now and then, so it is a really good investment in confidence IMO.

Re: Ask HN: Why is machine learning easier to learn than basic social skills?

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It's not hard, it's just not what you're talented towards and what you absorbed as a child. You can absolutely learn it, just like a people person can learn machine learning: Slower, methodically and with lots of repetition. And IMHO it's generally worth it even if you won't ever be a master. Nerds with social skills do have a superpower there. I'm 39 now and I'd say by now I'm reasonably competent even though I'm a…

Showing up and exposing yourself to more opportunities is crucial.

Re: Ask HN: Why is machine learning easier to learn than basic social skills?

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One aspect of learning anything is that you have to risk making mistakes. Possibly, in your mind you view the cost of making mistakes in social situations to be much greater than the cost of making mistakes in machine learning. Mess up in machine learning, and you just kill the process, fix the code and run it again. No one needs to know. Mess up in a social situation and every one will find out, you will be judged h…

„Eventually terrible memories turn into great ones“

Rejections and awkward situations are awful and really hurt afterwards, but after two days you will forget about them and in 3 months they will make you smile and you have a story to tell.

Re: Ask HN: Why is machine learning easier to learn than basic social skills?

#165
Social skills are harder to learn than machine learning because you can learn them on your own.

To learn social skills you need to do practical work involving other people. But everyone your age is lvl 99 and you're at lvl 5. It's not even about catching up anymore. You basically speak a different language than these people.

There aren't really that many good explanations of basic social skill stuff because it's mostly unconscious to people. They have never explicitly thought about it. It comes so naturally that they can't teach it.

Also most people would rather make fun of you than help - look at people on twitter and so on screenshotting this thread and insulting the OP. Not sure why that is a thing.

Re: Ask HN: Why is machine learning easier to learn than basic social skills?

#167
Why: what to learn is a lot clearer.

Also, social skills are an oppositional race to some degree: you want to get better at getting people to trust you at the same time people are learning how to not trust anyone in this environment of being grifted by ads/shitty jobs/pundits 24/7.

My advice: Be kind but ruthlessly performative. Think of yourself as putting on a show for other people. But tap into your innate compassion and love for humankind and ask yourself how they could benefit from the show.

Re: Ask HN: Why is machine learning easier to learn than basic social skills?

#168
Why: what to learn is a lot clearer.

Also, social skills are an oppositional race to some degree: you want to get better at getting people to trust you at the same time people are learning how to not trust anyone in this environment of being grifted by ads/shitty jobs/pundits 24/7.

My advice: Be kind but ruthlessly performative. Think of yourself as putting on a show for other people. But tap into your innate compassion and love for humankind and ask yourself how they could benefit from the show.

Re: Ask HN: Why is machine learning easier to learn than basic social skills?

#169
Please dont (over)analyze the situation. Humans are not machines. Each are unique. Treat them as such. This has made me perceived as being very extroverted and social when in fact I am quite introverted (I came to Germany to study). And this perspective works with all cultures. Engineers, exaggerating, have a black and white mindset and are overly rational and want to always have the right argument (and win).Hang out more with people with different interests and background. Life is not about your own interests and topics (or winning arguments) - adopt this perspective. You will soon find others consider you extremely social. Do not try to be a hacker with people.

Look if your are feeling "social skills" matters (I study CS and I know a lot of humans who are in the same boat as you), it helps to change your view of humans as not being a game, a machine, or something you can analyze and be better after learning the rules.

Re: Ask HN: Why is machine learning easier to learn than basic social skills?

#170

None of the answers I see writes about the main currency of social people: looks. Go to the gym and get to the top 50 percentile of people there (be able to do 15 pull ups, 40 push ups). When you get older this will get much harder, so use your youth to maximize your genetic potential. It will be boring, but most people do boring stuff all their lives. There are of course other aspects of looks as well, try to get in…

> It will be boring, but most people do boring stuff all their lives.

This.

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