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Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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I use a protocol for a decentralised message board that builds on top of the Bitcoin Cash blockchain. Initially it was developed for Bitcoin but it can only work on Bitcoin if transactions under 1 cent are possible.

The protocol is also used by various portal sides like memo.cash and member.cash

I prefer member.cash because it has that feel of reddit.

It's pretty cool actually, if somebody upvotes you instead of karma you get satoshis!

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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There are two approaches: * The federated approach, where many Twitter like sites can interconnect and exchange messages. One current example of this is Mastodon, older examples are Status.net/Identi.ca * An indie approach, where everyone basically hosts their own profile and there are no Twitter like sites at all, one instead uses readers that are completely separate from ones hosted profile, just like it was in the…

> just like it was in the blogosphere days

so if it's just like the blogosphere days, how exactly is this different from just advocating for a return to the blogosphere, which hasn't happened for many years and hence probably isn't happening for a reason?

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Every time I go looking for one of these open alternatives it’s filled with fringe conspiracy theorists, actual racists, etc. Example is LBRY. Bryan Lunduke says he’s switching off YouTube for LBRY, so I go there to check it out. Top trending video is some white supremacist thing why I shouldn’t forget my ancestry. Search for “how to repair furnace”, second result is video how Epstein is alive. Even Lunduke is taking…

Well, yes. There are only two reasons to use the less popular alternative: ideological preference, which is very rare, or being banned from the #1 service. > no censorship actually makes these smaller platforms something that people don’t want to use Invert that sentence and you see why it's happening on the major platforms; deplatforming the deplorables is necessary or they drive normal people and advertisers away.

Human nature eventually turns deplatforming the deplorables into deplatforming anyone I disagree with.

A decentralized Twitter would need decentralized moderation.

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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While somewhat offtopic, an important question is why would you want one ? IMHO the main issue of Twitter is not even the way how it's now a walled garden (and since recently, effectively outside of the Web). It's how the combination of a ~~140~~ 280† character limit, personal walls, hashtags, likes and an horribly hard to navigate comment system has resulted in a medium where constructive debate is almost impossible…

While I agree that the medium Twitter enforces is antithetical to reasonable discourse, I think this question is being asked because recently twitter and facebook deleted Trump's account (as well as some other prominent accounts). If you are ideologically aligned with one of those deleted accounts then it's a natural human response to think, "ok what if I'm next?" or "how can I still discuss my views?" and then look for alternatives.

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Urbit is interesting but $120 for a planet is egregious

Urbit using Ethereum as a global consistent PKI store seemed like a perfectly fine idea, until transaction costs for distributing those keys bloomed 11,000% in a year :(

It's being worked on. If the plan to use ZK-STARKs to rollup PKI transactions goes through, it should be only a few cents to set up a planet. In the meantime though, it is a major barrier :(

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This is what Google thought Google+ would be, but users were more about connecting to anyone and everyone and it became too messy for Google to want to deal with.

G+ was glorious in the beginning days. With no qualms it was the best social network I've experienced yet. IMO, what killed it was Google requiring the real names - which I still believe was a good idea - but then the death knell was when they waffled on that. If they would have stood firm on the real names policy, I'm convinced they would still be here today and there is a very good chance they would have surpassed…

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Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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There are federated networks which don't allow for centralised access restrictions as Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, et al, are evidencing today. But projects such as Mastodon put control in the hands of site or node administrators, and at least on Mastodon, there's an exceedingly healthy culture of blocking sites which themselves advocate oppressive practices. So those looking for an uncensored microphone may be somewha…

Don’t you think the tears might be yours someday? Will you always be on the “right” side? Will the people with the power to censor you always be “good”? I think censorship is a game where everybody loses eventually.

This. Precisely.

All you need is for the definitions of various words to change over time. And then you find yourself on the wrong side of an (arbitrary) line. Then you get deplatformed.

I'd say think carefully before you open that door, and walk past that particular dangerous line, but our "platforms" seem to have driven their mobs/herds over that line, with nary a thought to what comes next.

The slope is slippery. And we are gathering speed. Whilst people cheer the actions.

Re: Ask HN: What are decentralized Twitter alternatives?

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the world wide web?

Yes, but no. I think what people are really looking for is some kind of software platform that allows them to put up their own website , so nobody else can delete it out from under them, but also have some kind of interaction with other people with their own independent sites. So that they can press a button and "retweet" something someone else said, or reply to it without creating a new account on the site of everyb…

You're describing the indieweb: your identity is decentralized and is your domain name (not at the whims of billionaires), you put up whatever content you want but typically articles, interact with other people's content (likes, retweet, comment) without the need to create an account anywhere.

The real blocker is that in practice there is a huge step between creating an account on a commercial service and buying your domain name, setting up a website and making it reachable to the world.

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